Attention Campers/Hunters New rule in affect on leaving Trailer in the woods

[CJNAZ]

I know this thread is mainly focused on "trailers" but I have also heard that NFS is removing anything camping related after 72 hours. Anybody know where I can find the rule about the 10 day timeframe? I remote camp, in a tent, with very little else. A shade canopy, chairs, table, cooking gear, ice-chests. If I had to return home for 24-48 hours I would leave my gear there but if I came back and it was removed by NFS I'd be bummed. I'd just like to see the rule in writing.

[azshtr]

Camping for 14 days is just that... camping. Leaving gear for any length of time is not camping, it's holding a spot you wish to camp at when you finally show up. When we were kids it was called "Dibs". If the rule is 72 hours for "Dibs" I'm fine with that. leaving a setup for a week or more to hold it is just being selfish.

[Snapshot]

If the Forest Service was smart they would allow hunters to get permits for having Rv's in the forest for extended periods of time, vacant or not. Sure beats the cost of a tow, or fine.

[CJNAZ]

I get it that if someone is "holding" a spot, it's not cool. I'm not referring to holding a spot or getting there first. I'm referring to - I have a camp setup, fill a tag and want to run my meat or cape to town. Or several towns, depending on the processor and taxidermist. Why would it be a sin to stay in town overnight then head back to camp the next day or two? If I take a week or two off work and tag out early I like to stay out for as many days as I can. Some people do this. I just don't think that is being selfish if I don't roll up camp just to return a couple days later, refreshed and restocked. I guess I'm old school though.

[cramerhunts]

I have and will continue to set up camp when my time permits......matter of fact I have a trailer set up right now and yet I'm sitting here at work. Guess that makes me selfish???? I am not in a campground or holding a prime spot but it is simply for the matter of time and the cost savings of pulling it up and down the mountain. I will be in it O'dark thirty the night before archery elk starts and will promptly pull it home as soon as my buddy's tag is filled or the season ends. I know that I won't have the time to get it there while the sun is still shining between now and then so I took the chance and set it up early. It is however on State Trust land so I'm not exactly sure how that comes into play.

 

I will also take it down south for the general bear hunt and leave it for my daughter's jr. hunt that starts the next weekend.....again I don't feel this is selfish but will prevent me from having to try and set it up in the dark as well as allow me to get there quicker after picking up my daughter after school. It will be on the Forest and I'll take my chances.

 

Stubborn? Hardheaded? Yep I am and my wife won't let me forget it but it is the way I do things and to each their own.

[rthrbhntng]

Can I reserve a campsite by parking a vehicle, placing a tent or other personal property on the forest in advance of occupying the site?

No, vehicles, personal property or other objects including tents left on the forest for the purpose of reserving a campsite or storing property is in violation of Title 36CFR 261.10(f)"Placing a vehicle or other object in such a manner that is an impediment or hazard to the safety or convenience of any person" The violation is a Class B Misdemeanor with a fine of $250. In addition leaving property unattended for 72-hours is considered abandon property under Title 36 261.10(e) "Abandoning personal property". Fine is $250 for a vehicle or structure and $100 for other objects. Vehicles and other personal property left unattended over 72-hours may be impounded by the Forest Service

[rthrbhntng]

My question would be that if I follow the Travel Management rule and park within 30' of a road and backpack my camp in 2 miles am I now in violation of the 72hr rule. Didn't see anything about my camp being within eyesight of the vehicle.Hmmmm.

[4Falls]

They just want to keep making it harder and harder for you to use THEIR national forests. Besides it gives them something to harrass hunters with.

[Scooter]

I like the idea, but only in the places where there are limited areas in which to park trailers and/or access the public lands... So, if there are lots of other accessible and safe areas, there's no reason to tow anybody's trailer. But if there are trailers in every darn spot and they've been left there for weeks or more AND it causes folks to have to turn back or go pretty far out of their way- tow the stupid things.

[Elkaddict]

Word must be getting out, the trailer a few miles down the road from me has been moved. It had been there, and unoccupied, for at least 2 weeks. Hope he got it and not the FS.

[johnnie blaze]

so if i go on a elk hunting and use my wall tent, and after the hunt i leave it up for 72 hours, will they take down my tent for me?

[rthrbhntng]

Kinda interesting to finally get this forwarded to me today seeing that I am on the contact list for most Forests releases.

 

For Immediate Release

Aug. 16, 2013

 

Public Affairs Contacts:

Brady Smith, Forest Public Affairs Officer, 928-527-3490

Dean Jones, Forest Deputy Public Affairs Officer, 928-527-3643

Brienne Magee, Flagstaff Ranger District Public Affairs, 928-527-8290

 

Parking trailers in forests prohibited during hunting season

 

Flagstaff, Ariz. – The Coconino National Forest is asking all northern Arizona-bound hunters to refrain from leaving their trailers unattended in the forest during the upcoming hunting season. In previous seasons, law enforcement officers have found numerous trailers parked in the forests for the purpose of reserving a location for the entire hunting season and also because the individuals did not want to haul their trailers back and forth.

 

Parking a trailer in the forest for this purpose violates Forest Service regulations. If trailers are left unattended for more than 72 hours, the Forest Service considers them abandoned property and may remove them from the forest. Violators can also be cited for this action. Enforcing these regulations protects the property and allows recreational users equal access to national forests.

 

This regulation applies to all national forests in northern Arizona, including the Coconino, Kaibab and Prescott forests.

 

For more information, contact the Coconino National Forest at (928) 527-3600.

[Snapshot]

so if i go on a elk hunting and use my wall tent, and after the hunt i leave it up for 72 hours, will they take down my tent for me?

Not only will they take it down.....they will gladly sell it on ebay for you. Along with al the trail cams,blinds, and treestands they have been pilfering.

[Snapshot]

Kinda interesting to finally get this forwarded to me today seeing that I am on the contact list for most Forests releases.

 

For Immediate Release

Aug. 16, 2013

 

Public Affairs Contacts:

Brady Smith, Forest Public Affairs Officer, 928-527-3490

Dean Jones, Forest Deputy Public Affairs Officer, 928-527-3643

Brienne Magee, Flagstaff Ranger District Public Affairs, 928-527-8290

 

Parking trailers in forests prohibited during hunting season

 

Flagstaff, Ariz. – The Coconino National Forest is asking all northern Arizona-bound hunters to refrain from leaving their trailers unattended in the forest during the upcoming hunting season. In previous seasons, law enforcement officers have found numerous trailers parked in the forests for the purpose of reserving a location for the entire hunting season and also because the individuals did not want to haul their trailers back and forth.

 

Parking a trailer in the forest for this purpose violates Forest Service regulations. If trailers are left unattended for more than 72 hours, the Forest Service considers them abandoned property and may remove them from the forest. Violators can also be cited for this action. Enforcing these regulations protects the property and allows recreational users equal access to national forests.

 

This regulation applies to all national forests in northern Arizona, including the Coconino, Kaibab and Prescott forests.

 

For more information, contact the Coconino National Forest at (928) 527-3600.

Thanks for the update. Does any of that apply to the Apache National Forest?

[ultramag]

This is a great website.. Lots of good information. matter of fact I had some time this afternoon and drove around found a few trailers that looked staged for the upcoming hunt. I found some red tags on a few and pulled them off and burned them in my campfire tonight..lol I guess Iam selfish as well..I do the same thing mostly becuase I don't want to tow back and forth every weekend to scout and archery deer hunt..I sense a lot of jealously with some hunters. Get over it.. I was in 6a and 5bs