lookinfor110 Report post Posted October 15, 2006 Anybody had something like this happen? How did you handle it? My partner/I were bowhunting elk this year and got into a bugling bull early a.m. He was held up in a small stand of thick timber, we snuck within 150 yards and elected to wait for him to make a move to bedding (way too thick to sneak in). After 30-40 minutes of waiting, two hunters start cow calling behind us. We are between them and the bull. They eventually turn the corner and I waved them off. They saw us and came tromping toward us and stop to spew. One was a blow hard, the other silent. Blow hard claims he'd been chasing this bull for 3 miles that morning. I told him not possible, we'd been on this bull, not moving since first light. Then he coaches us on the finer art of hunting elk and claims that we're screwing up by waiting and that we should go in after the bull. After telling him we don't need any hillside lessons he says it's his bull, I say not and he proceeds past us to 'go get him'. I considered this a #1 violation of sportsmans code and proceed to call him what he was...a liar and a sorry mofo. He/they accepted the accusations without comment and proceed toward the bull. I'll post the result of his actions later but would like to hear some reactions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
az4life Report post Posted October 15, 2006 If you indeed had been on the bull as long as you say, he was obviously in the wrong and a waste of oxygen, What a JERK. I really hope is this the ONLY JERK like lis left in the world, but since that is not too lkely.... I'll Hope this bonehead is given the same treament by one of his own kind in the future. If you indeed had been on the bull as long as you say, he was obviously in the wrong and a waste of oxygen, What a JERK. I really hope is this the ONLY JERK like this left in the world, but since that is not too likely.... I'll have to Hope this bonehead is given the same treament by one of his own kind in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TATAat27 Report post Posted October 15, 2006 Wow, that's pretty bold of him. He is totally in the wrong even if he actually was chasing that bull for three hours, just because you see a nice bull doesn't make it yours. If a person is actually stalking a bull or in your case waiting him out, that's a different story. It sounds like this guy is headed for a good ol' country whooping in his future! Theres not much you can do about idiots. I bet he chased "his" bull around the entire hunt and came up empty handed, it doesn't sound like he knew what he was doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azryan Report post Posted October 15, 2006 thats really sad and dissapointing to hear...that someone would even think about doing that. Some people just have a real pride issue and think they own everything and everything is theirs, lookingfor110 im sorry you had to run into that...i honestly dont know how i would react to that, but i know for sure that it probably wouldn't end up good...wat an a$$hole...my temper flared up reading this...but violence is def not he answer...i want to know how things turned out...thats public land hunting for ya...you obviously had the right of way to that bull...you were there first..what a prideful b@$t@rd to even thiink about coming up to you and tell you its his bull, and then tell you "how" to hunt...he obviously has his facts wrong...then to top it off he goes ahead and goes after it....i hope you handled it well cuz that would be the right thing to do... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
out2hunt Report post Posted October 15, 2006 thats really sad and dissapointing to hear...that someone would even think about doing that. Some people just have a real pride issue and think they own everything and everything is theirs, lookingfor110 im sorry you had to run into that...i honestly dont know how i would react to that, but i know for sure that it probably wouldn't end up good...wat an a$$hole...my temper flared up reading this...but violence is def not he answer...i want to know how things turned out...thats public land hunting for ya...you obviously had the right of way to that bull...you were there first..what a prideful b@$t@rd to even thiink about coming up to you and tell you its his bull, and then tell you "how" to hunt...he obviously has his facts wrong...then to top it off he goes ahead and goes after it....i hope you handled it well cuz that would be the right thing to do... I personally would have started whooping and hollaring and sent that bull a running---I wouldn't let him get a crack at him out of the lack of respect for your position on the bull.Then when the butthead returned I would have served him with a nice dish of knuckle sandwiches!!!Someone grab a camera this is about to get ugly!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COOSEFAN Report post Posted October 15, 2006 That blows me away that guy had the balls to walk up to you, say that, and proceed onto your bull! At first, that bull was fair game to everyone........as soon as that guy saw you set up on him, it became your bull outta the two of ya, and there still may have been another hunter stalking in from a different direction, and at this point it is his bull also. But if that other hunter bumps into you and you are ahead of him, I would hope he would back off as well, 'cause you are on it first. This happens every year, especially in certain units, to me and frustrates the heck out of me. I have been fortunate that I haven't had any major run-ins with guys like you describe, I usually back off even if I'm first on the bull, it's not worth it to get ugly out there. In certain units, I hunt far more aggressive than normally, because you have to, if you sit and wait, someone will be on your bull in no time. It sucks but is a fact of life and you just have to accept it and hunt accordingly. I hope that guy you had the run-in with did NOT kill your bull, he didn't deserve it with ethics like that! It's a shame there's actually alot of guys out there like that! JIM> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lookinfor110 Report post Posted October 15, 2006 SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED. After Mr Blow Hard and his friend moved in on our bull we left that spot and doubled around to where we thought the bull/cows would travel. As I said earlier, it was too thick to move in undetected so it was predictable that Blow Hard would bugger them...we just had to guess the route the animals would travel then try a setup. It worked just right. The bull and five cows came out within 80 yards of our new location and fed in plain view for a few minutes. It was early in the hunt so we rated him a none shooter...a good looking, mature 5 x 5. Thanks to Mr Blow Hard we got a quality opportunity at the bull. The result: We counted coup on the unsportsmanlike Mr Blow Hard!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffcountry Report post Posted October 15, 2006 lookinfor110 sounds like you turned the table on blowhard.way to go. sometimes other people in the field (even can beaters ) can play into your hand if you keep your wits about you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter84 Report post Posted October 16, 2006 I had a similar incident several years ago, involving a guide and a client. I had 2 nice set-ups on decent bulls during the archery season. Both were blown by the same 2 guys. By the conversations they were hunting cows,and the hunter both times asked his "guide" how come they were inturrupting another hunter. Both times I had bulls within 100 yards, and they walked right through the middle. The "guide" talking loud enough I was able to hear them easily at 40 yards, told the hunter not to worry about it they were after cows and " that guy is after bulls I can tell from how he is calling." If I ever happen to draw another bull tag, I will have a blunt in the quiver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flash Report post Posted October 16, 2006 Just got to hate those experiences. Too many of them these days! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scout4u Report post Posted October 16, 2006 been there done that and hate it everytime. I think u handled it like a true sportsman kudos and congrats. i thnk when u apply for tags u need to take a ethics test 1st hey maybe thats one way to thin the hunt population weaker gene pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azryan Report post Posted October 16, 2006 see thats wat is fun about hunting when there is other people around...you gotta make a game plan to where you think those other hunters are gonna go then make a plan to where those elk or whatever you are hunting...i think that can be a fun way of hunting...use your smarts and try to out think the opponent...i like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunt4horns Report post Posted October 16, 2006 Okay here's what I would of done, I would of lost all of yours respect by laying my bow down and ruining it for both of us hunter by whippin his butt, then maybe if he runs into me again he will remember the butt whippin and find another Bull. End of story............. respect and ethics goes both ways and being the better guy stands up for what you think is right . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Switchback Report post Posted October 16, 2006 Okay here's what I would of done, I would of lost all of yours respect by laying my bow down and ruining it for both of us hunter by whippin his butt, then maybe if he runs into me again he will remember the butt whippin and find another Bull. End of story............. respect and ethics goes both ways and being the better guy stands up for what you think is right . I know muleskinner and I would of been right there with you!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunt4horns Report post Posted October 16, 2006 I think most guys here would be right there with me but admitting it is another thing . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
