Prop 106

[bobbyo]

It seems you edited your post. You should really check into the CBD. It may be right up your alley.

Your right, after being born here and hunting all my life, I may have missed something, doubt it was in October.

Dave,

First, I did not edit any post. Second I don't know what the CBD is. Maybe a mental institution? Third I wanted clarification on your statement that we have too much wilderness. I understand what you meant better now. I think you mean designated regulated wilderness. I misunderstood your comment and thought you were using a more general definition of wilderness. We have too much open space in Arizona. Hence My october hunt comment. I will probably miss a few times this October.

Bob

[dave]

Glad we got that cleared up. Any chance I will see you next month?

[bobbyo]

Maybe. Where commission meeting.

[dave]

all the retired people will be at the Oct. 20th Commission meeting. Most are scheduled on Fridays and they try like heck to get it all done before any working people can show up on Saturday.

Then they take November off to recoop.

Then the Department hands them 50 changes in December they all smile and vote yes exept one.

You know, the 4-1 Commission.

[bobbyo]

Prop 106 is a no vote for me 105 is worse. Went to Az state land site. Looks like a real estate brochure. See for yourself http://www.land.state.az.us/report/report2005_full.pdf. There is 9,269,723 acres of state land and they are proposing to set aside 690,000 acres. It seems to be a bait and switch scam. What are they going to do with the other 8,500,000 acres? Dave is right there needs to be a comprehensive plan for the entire State land trust that is transparent.

[40-year-AZ-hunter]

Dave,

 

Do you know who the 1 Commissioner was that voted not to support 106?

 

Also, I heard that AZSFW was supporting 105altho I dont see anything about it on their web site.

 

Bruce

[cmc]

My take.. vote no on both of them.

 

Why no on 106...

http://www.azsos.gov/election/2006/Info/Pu...ish/Prop106.htm

 

 

Quote:

2. "CONSERVATION" MEANS PRESERVING THE NATURAL, CULTURAL, OR HISTORICAL ASSETS OF LAND, SUCH AS OPEN SPACE, SCENIC BEAUTY, GEOLOGY, ARCHAEOLOGY, PROTECTED PLANTS, WILDLIFE, AND ECOLOGICAL VALUES.

 

 

Then when you use the definition of Conservation as said above in the paragraph below I find that the wording is quite hard to swallow and leaves the doors open to ban access.

 

 

Quote:

A. A CONSERVATION RESERVE OF APPROXIMATELY 694,000 ACRES IS ESTABLISHED CONSISTING OF THOSE EDUCATIONAL RESERVE LANDS, PERMANENT RESERVE LANDS, AND PROVISIONAL RESERVE LANDS THAT ARE SO DESIGNATED IN SECTION 12 OF THIS ARTICLE. LANDS HELD IN THE CONSERVATION RESERVE SHALL BE RESTRICTED AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, SHALL BE MANAGED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH CONSERVATION AND ARE SUBJECT TO CONVEYANCE, LEASE, REDESIGNATION OR OTHER DISPOSITION ONLY IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION, PROVIDED THAT NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL PRECLUDE THE CONTINUATION OF ANY LEASE, RIGHT-OF-WAY, OR OTHER USE OF CONSERVATION RESERVE LANDS THAT WAS IN EXISTENCE AS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS SECTION.

[dave]

Bruce,

 

Joe voted no.

[wetmule]

Just saw the Cronkite 8 Poll linked from the PBS website. I think the Poll is done by ASU, it lists Prop 105 as

36% for and 34% against.

Prop 106 poll results are listed as 49% for and 21% against. Not good news if you are against these.

I hope you all vote.

[dave]

Bruce,

I sent you a PM.

 

The wife and I just finished voting on or early ballots. Hope all you folks get out and vote.

 

I hope polls are BS.

 

Our votes do not agree with this poll or Mr. Napolitano's poll. He might have to marry a man now and also speak English. The guest worker program may include all the illegals picking up the trash they brought here.