tgaab Report post Posted July 17, 2013 pretty new to coyote hunting - maybe been going a year or so. finally getting the hang of it a little i think - the last three trips out i've had success in calling some in. still no yotes down though lol. my question is what to do when I spot one coming in? saturday morning we spotted two trotting in while the call was still running. they stopped at about 300 yards out. not comfortable with that shot yet and didn't know what to do so i muted the call. couple seconds later they turned and started trotting away. I turned the call back on but they didn't come back... should i have let the call keep running or done something else different? wind was good and we were pretty well camouflaged so i don't think they spotted or smelled us although i know it's possible. all i know is I'm freaking hooked now and wanan drop one!! and don't ask me about the 140yd I missed last month that one still stings!! thanks for any tips!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coues..crazy Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Let it play when they get into shooting distance bark at them they will stop and give you shot. Make sure you are completely concealed full camo gloves face covered. They can see very very well. Also you might try some kind of decoy set it up about 50-75 yards away. It will get them focused on the movement of the decoy. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 17, 2013 Good advice! You can turn the call down some if it is cranked up by I just let it go as well. A decoy can make a huge difference. Oh and missing is part f the game. They move a lot faster than they look and rarely in a straight line. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twowindy Report post Posted July 17, 2013 If you have the wind right and they hang up chances are the call was to loud.Most people play their e-caller way to loud.Less volume works better for me.You have to remember your trying to sound like a dieing rabbit not a dieing T-REX.Keep trying and good luck. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted July 17, 2013 pretty new to coyote hunting - maybe been going a year or so. finally getting the hang of it a little i think - the last three trips out i've had success in calling some in. still no yotes down though lol. my question is what to do when I spot one coming in? saturday morning we spotted two trotting in while the call was still running. they stopped at about 300 yards out. not comfortable with that shot yet and didn't know what to do so i muted the call. couple seconds later they turned and started trotting away. I turned the call back on but they didn't come back... should i have let the call keep running or done something else different? wind was good and we were pretty well camouflaged so i don't think they spotted or smelled us although i know it's possible. all i know is I'm freaking hooked now and wanan drop one!! and don't ask me about the 140yd I missed last month that one still stings!! thanks for any tips!! scenarios will vary.... simple if they hang up when the caller is playing then it's probably too loud.... if they are coming in when it's playing, let it play. you can watch their behavior and tell a few thing about how they are acting... if they stop but they keep looking back behind that usually means there is another 1 coming. if they just stop and won't budge they may have picked you out. as stated above gloves and a face mask are important in helping keep your location concealed. switch sound to a vole squeak or lip squeak.. this drives them crazy and they just have to come and check. I sometimes will switch to a pup distress and the females will almost always come running. you are creating a real environment, like a young coyote caught the pray and and older coyote came in to steal his grub. you'll have educated dawgs at times that won't come past that mark and they will wait you out. best solution for this is a BDC scope.... also if it is real open country this scenario will play it's self out over and over... they need to feel comfortable coming to the call. there is a reason they are in 49 states and 2 continents.. they are pretty smart and adaptable. one last tip I always try to put the shooter down wind from the caller. James 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted July 17, 2013 you need to call them into a range you are comfortable with. pratice shooting so you are confident and kno w your limitations. . i called in 18 one day for a guy and his son. some close as 10 yards. they never cut a hair. knee deep in brass though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twowindy Report post Posted July 17, 2013 I have hunted predators for 20+ years and have killed a lot of them.I can tell from the post by JLW that he knows predators and I bet he's killed a lot of them to.You can learn a lot from what he has to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarheadhunter Report post Posted July 17, 2013 I keep as still as possible while calling and will not even move until they are to my call and I will hurry and swing on them. If they are a ways out and I have time I will get them in my scope and stay on them until they are as close as I think they will come. I will usually just let my call play until I shoot then I will switch to pup distress. The best thing you can do to help yourself out is find someone locally to go with a few times. You will learn a lot more just watching them plus most the time I think it's funner with a good hunting buddy. I alsways try and stay in the shade if at all possible. That is the best camoflauge you can have. Most all of the coyotes I kill are within 50 yds or less. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted July 18, 2013 I have hunted predators for 20+ years and have killed a lot of them.I can tell from the post by JLW that he knows predators and I bet he's killed a lot of them to.You can learn a lot from what he has to say I appreciate the kind words twowindy! It was a huge learning curve for me learning mostly by myself. I always say ( someone above also stated) go with an experienced hunter to shorten that curve, wish I had! James 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twowindy Report post Posted July 18, 2013 I was lucky to have someone take me out and show me how its done about 20 years ago.he had at least 20 years of knowledge.I owe a lot to him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted July 19, 2013 If they have been called before and shot at they will hang up if they don't actually see something moving like a rabbit or another predator in the process of actually killing something. Eventually they get educated and in open country they will be leery of coming in too quick. If they stop and look back and take a step to turn, shoot them as they probably aren't going to come in any further. How far apart are you sitting from your hunting partner? I'v found that any where from 50 to 100 feet apart is ideal. I've never used an electronic caller but in open country on a calm morning I've heard electronic callers a half mile away. Predators will hone in on the call and pinpoint the sound to within 25 feet from a distance of three hundred yards so don't put the speaker too close or they will see you moving your head or hands. Once they do come into range you want to get the shot off in 3-4 seconds from the time you raise the rifle. If you have more than one come in shoot the furthest on first. If you have one come in and you shoot it, stay put and keep calling for another five minutes as more are probably on the way. Good Luck and keep trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperwrx Report post Posted August 9, 2013 Movement (or the lack there of) is more important than camo. No need for fancy camo prints that cost an arm and a leg. I have shot many predators in blue jeans and a t-shirt. I think there is a direct correlation between the proximity the coyote is to you and the ability to get away with wearing less than optimal camo. 100 yards in brushy country and you can get away with almost anything. 25' and you probably should wear a facemask and gloves. There is also something to be said about positioning yourself in the shade while you run your caller vs. in the sunlight where a coyote can distinguish movement more easily. Gary Clevenger from PCOC in California shoots 100 coyotes a year, all with a shotgun, all wearing tan pants, dull earth-tone sweater, cheap gardeners gloves, and a mask covering his lower face. All less than 40 yards. Jimmy Steward in AZ has shot over 100 coyotes for a few season in a row and wears nothing fancy and takes most of them with a shotgun. All less than 35 yards. These guys depend more on their ability to identify a stand that will increase the shot to kill ratios than other industry tricks weekend hunters and Cabellas feel are a must have. Fancy caller? Hardly. Expensive firearm? Pass. Camo prints? Only if they're in the discount bin. Don't believe the hype. If you want to shave light years off the predator hunting curve go read the how-to manual to close quarters coyote hunting from the man who has perfected it. http://http://deserthunter.com/dhp/content/red-zone-hunting When you can get these results in just a few outings without really putting much effort into it your words should be chiseled on the wall for others to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperwrx Report post Posted August 9, 2013 What does the best coyote shotgunner in the SW USA wear when he shoots coyotes? If you want the scoop of the REAL DEAL on coyote hunting read it here. http://http://deserthunter.com/dhp/content/gear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twowindy Report post Posted August 9, 2013 I have to agree with hyperwrx about useing a shotgun, 95% of the predators I shoot are shot with a shotgun.Heres a few pics(note the shotgun) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperwrx Report post Posted August 9, 2013 A high altitude coyote sure looks different than what we see at 2500 feet in the winter. Too bad even a nice AZ coyote doesn't fetch what our neighbors get in the Northern states. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
