rossislider Report post Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks to the help of Bonecollector I was able to get some Ulnmers and tried them our a couple of weeks ago. I tried shooting 5 different broadheads into my Rienhardt target. Please note, all I was testing was accuracy compared to my field points at 40 yards, not penetration, blade expansion, etc. I tried the following: Mechhnicals: Rage Ulmer Edge Swhacker All three seemed to shoot pretty consistent with my field points. But I gave the edge to the Ulmers because I liked what seems to me to be a smaller more compact and stronger construction. The Ulmers do not open as easily as some of the others, but I don't think it would be a problem on an animal like an Elk or a deer. Fixed: Montec Slick Trick I've had issues with Montecs shooting the same as my field points in the past. There was no improvement this time around. I was very impressed with Slick Trick which seemed to be dead on with my field points arrow after arrow. My winners: Slick Trick & Ulmer Edge. I will probably rotate between the two depending on the animal I am hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZHUNTER05 Report post Posted August 20, 2013 />I personally think they look a lot like shwackers with a different name on them, and a higher price tag!I cannot buy "schwackers" based on their name alone and by that I mean it sounds like those who designed let their 5 year old kid give them their name.. Thanks bonecollector for starting the thread and WHT_MNTMAN for your continued input on these UE posts. Wow, talk about being 5 years old! Compare the schwacker to the ulmer edge side by side, they are almost identical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 20, 2013 I never judged your opinion AZHUNTER05, nor did I say they're unalike, just happen think schwacker is a funny name. For instance, I didn't mean to offend you and I hope you "schwack" a deer this season! lol - seriously no offense directed out from this keyboard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZHUNTER05 Report post Posted August 20, 2013 />I never judged your opinion AZHUNTER05, nor did I say they're unalike, just happen think schwacker is a funny name. For instance, I didn't mean to offend you and I hope you "schwack" a deer this season! lol - seriously no offense directed out from this keyboard Lol, I thought that escalated quickly . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 20, 2013 /> I never judged your opinion AZHUNTER05, nor did I say they're unalike, just happen think schwacker is a funny name. For instance, I didn't mean to offend you and I hope you "schwack" a deer this season! lol - seriously no offense directed out from this keyboard Lol, I thought that escalated quickly . Diminished even quicker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted August 21, 2013 /> /> I never judged your opinion AZHUNTER05, nor did I say they're unalike, just happen think schwacker is a funny name. For instance, I didn't mean to offend you and I hope you "schwack" a deer this season! lol - seriously no offense directed out from this keyboard Lol, I thought that escalated quickly . Diminished even quicker! No doubt! Talk about disappointing. What happened to the good old days where people would go on for pages and bashing each other for days. Then at some point they would start dragging each others family members into the insults.... wait, maybe that is my wife and I am thinking of. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhuntaz1 Report post Posted August 21, 2013 I just got a pack of Ulmer Edge. I really like the way they fly. Will see how they preform on a buck in 3 days.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resolute Report post Posted August 21, 2013 Slick tricks are great heads. After tuning them, they fly like my field points as far as I can shoot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues 'n' Sheep Report post Posted August 21, 2013 I use them now... have not killed with them...but like how they deploy and how they shoot!! I get mine at Chasin' a Dream Outfitters in Payson... Jeremy always has some on hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GotBowAz Report post Posted August 21, 2013 AZHUNTER05, no offence but Schwacker and the Ulmer Edge are nothing alike. You may think they look alike but they actually deploy opposite of one another. Schwacker is a jack knifing type head that deploys after it has went through the hide inside the animal. The wing blade axial point is at the bottom of the ferrule so that the tip of the blade comes out of the ferrule like a jack knife blade. The Ulmer Edge is a rearward deploying head that fully deploys prior to going through the hide and stays locked open. The pivot point is at the wing tips (center of the ferrule) that deploy the blades at the rear not at the tip of the ferrule . I prefer a rearward deploying head that fully opens/deploys prior to entry, Schwacker does not. If im going to use a mechanical its going to be for a big hole on entry and exit, Ulmer Edge isn't as big as Id like nor does the ferrule penetrate as deep as id like prior to the blades contacting the hide. GBA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcoueshuntr Report post Posted August 21, 2013 i been experiencing with both the swackers and ulmers both flew the same but the ulmers make an awful rattle at first shot the swacker not so much im a noise freak hate it, cant stand it, dont want it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted August 21, 2013 i been experiencing with both the swackers and ulmers both flew the same but the ulmers make an awful rattle at first shot the swacker not so much im a noise freak hate it, cant stand it, dont want it... I notice a little noise if i was intentionally shaking it but I did not notice a noise when slinging the arrow.. Thanks for the input though I'm going to shoot a couple more and re-evaulate that noise.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcoueshuntr Report post Posted August 22, 2013 im gonna be using the swackers this weeknd but i have 6 ulmers 1 i used for target practice so if any body want to buy these and ur in the east valley give me a messgae and ill let them go for 40$ i do not have the original packaging put have the extra bands and set screw for the practice mode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpredator@work Report post Posted August 22, 2013 Both my son and I have killed Javelina with the Ulmer Edge and both performed flawlessly. 1 @ 11 yds the other at 13 yds. I wouldn't use them on elk as I use an entirely different set up for larger game, but I would have no issue putting them on a deer set up. I have not experienced any noise from them. P.S. - Bonecollector - your avatar is killing me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted September 5, 2013 just bought some but i don't no if i should use them for my elk hunt or stay with my NAP thunderheads. what do you guys think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
