Seldom Drawn Report post Posted July 1, 2013 That answers that question....thanks Those antlers look sawed off Seldom drawn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prowlerMan Report post Posted July 1, 2013 That answers that question....thanks Those antlers look sawed off Seldom drawn I don't think they were cut. Couldnt see any marks on them that a blade would leave but I'm not a forensic scientist either. Here's a closer look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted July 1, 2013 There is no doubt in my mind those horns were sawed off and the remains appear to be weathered. I also have found a few skulls like that and always wondered the circumstances and why they would't take the whole skull and horns? Maybe just a small bull? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My Rights As An American Report post Posted July 1, 2013 I would agree that they look sawed off and weathered. I have found quite a few of those myself. Hard to imagine a valid reason to do this, but there could be one I have not thought of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couesntime Report post Posted July 1, 2013 here is another one. interesting thing to me is how many people may know the story behind these bulls? Cool find, sad scenario! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted July 1, 2013 It appears to be a natural result of antler shedding. The porouis areas atop the pedicle stubbs are where the osteoclast cells grow when the bull's testosterone level increases. Those cells weaken the connection between the antler and the to cause the shedding. All but the very tops of pedicle stubbs are under and/or surrounded by the hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted July 2, 2013 I might add that many of these types of skulls I have found have had the rib cages nearby with obvious saw cuts through them. Still searching for an explanation on these findings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Report post Posted July 3, 2013 As for the bull with hard horns. Likely a leftover that didn't shed or rub or rut, so Still white.<br />If it was this years rubbed early he would stain with blood and the tips would be a mess. I've seen that before.<br /><br />As far as all the bugling this time of year, Its mostly Cows Bugling. I see it all the time every year. Go look at them next time, its pretty cool!<br /><br />Those horns don't look cut off to me. That's just the natural pedestal. I find those all the time. I've seen plenty of cut off ones too. That's just the way it looks.<br /><br />Lance http://www.timberlandoutfitters.blogspot.com/2013/06/tlo-interactive-seminar-and-class-by.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted July 7, 2013 I've seen it with deer. An acquaintance of mine years ago said he saw 'the big' one I had been hunting for several years in the August/September archery season just north of Phoenix in hard horn during the September part of the hunt. I laughed at him. A couple weeks later I saw him just after the season ended and he was indeed hard horned and already dark brown. His neck was huge. I was only 30 yards from him, there was no mistake. He was rut ready loooong before other buck were even near ready to strip velvet. I think the oldest and most dominant animals are ready to go long before the others. Just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jcubed Report post Posted July 7, 2013 />I think the oldest and most dominant animals are ready to go long before the others. Just my opinion. I think I've had a gf or two that thought this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ready2hunt Report post Posted July 7, 2013 /> I think the oldest and most dominant animals are ready to go long before the others. Just my opinion. I think I've had a gf or two that thought this... Not sure if I should call a technical foul on that comment or pat you on the back haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpinebullwinkle Report post Posted July 7, 2013 I can't talk intelligently about whether the oldest and most dominant deer are ready to go first but with respect to elk I have seen both sides of it. Some monster bulls have a large harem in late August and appear "ready to go" and then again I witness many older bulls that let the younguns round up the cows and then come in later (sometimes real late) when most of the work is done and take over the operation! Interesting subject to discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted July 8, 2013 thats like the old joke where theres a young bull and old bull looking down on a heard of cows, the young bull says he's gonna run down a screw one of those cows, and the old bull says i'm gonna walk down and screw them all. sorry for the language Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
