Red Rabbit Report post Posted May 20, 2013 http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/news-events/?cid=STELPRDB5420950 Campfire and smoking restrictions will be implemented at 8 a.m. Wednesday on the entire Coconino National Forest and on the Williams and Tusayan Ranger Districts of the Kaibab National Forest in order to protect public health and reduce preventable human-caused fires. Restrictions will not yet be implemented on the North Kaibab Ranger District of the Kaibab National Forest due to different weather and fuels conditions. Under the restrictions, fires, campfires, charcoal, coal and wood stoves are allowed in developed campgrounds only. The restrictions also limit smoking to within enclosed vehicles or buildings or in developed campgrounds. Using a device that is solely fueled by liquid petroleum or LPG fuels that can be turned on and off is allowed in areas that are clear of flammable materials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZP&Y Report post Posted May 20, 2013 Hopefully Apache Sitgreaves too. Dry up there IMHO ... Az Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted May 20, 2013 I think every forest should have restrictions before this holiday weekend. Too many ignorant people out there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Unit 35B is burning up right now... You can probably guess who started this fire... And they want to reward them with amnesty! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted May 21, 2013 I think every forest should have restrictions before this holiday weekend. Too many ignorant people out there. +10000! I keep recommending tighter restrictions for the holiday weekend to the USFS, but they always just go in stages and want to allow the public to have campfires over the holiday. Scares me to death! Fyi, Coronado goes into fire restrictions on Wed also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ8 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 When I worked on an engine crew way back in the day, we had more new starts on that Tuesday after Memorial Day. Once everyone leaves, all their campfires are still hot! They think they're out, but it only takes a a small breeze to blow those hot embers over the fire ring. You won't believe how many campfires are left this way. It's sickening. I always told our FMO to shut down campfires before Memorial Day. His hands were tied, but I knew his frustrations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSHUNTER05 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Ban the campfires forever in AZ, I'm tired of our forests burning down. I'd rather go without a campfire than go without a forest to hunt in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Drawn Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Really, jshunter05 Maybe we should have put up a fight when the tree huggers didn't want the forest thinned. The forest service usally starts the most fires doing uncontrolled burns when we have 40 mph winds.or the valley news helicopter blowing up the Rodeo chediski fire to save 2 people that started It In the first place I agree they need to put closures on when It gets dry. Forlon Hope,I am very thankful you serving us but did you ever ask your fmo to educate the people that don't know any better? and I usaully go out on tuesday and fill my truck with trash and put out several fires.and stop some of the forest service truck the ones with water on them and ask why they aren't checking some of the popular camping spots I just put out while they just drive buy.I know they don't have a lot of water but they sure seem to pick and choose were they go we all need to step up and educate people although some just don't care. Seldom Drawn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ8 Report post Posted May 21, 2013 Really,jshunter05 Maybe we should have put up a fight when the tree huggers didn't want the forest thinned. The forest service usally starts the most fires doing uncontrolled burns when we have 40 mph winds.or the valley news helicopter blowing up the Rodeo chediski fire to save 2 people that started It In the first place I agree they need to put closures on when It gets dry. Forlon Hope,I am very thankful you serving us but did you ever ask your fmo to educate the people that don't know any better? and I usaully go out on tuesday and fill my truck with trash and put out several fires.and stop some of the forest service truck the ones with water on them and ask why they aren't checking some of the popular camping spots I just put out while they just drive buy.I know they don't have a lot of water but they sure seem to pick and choose were they go we all need to step up and educate people although some just don't care. ESeldom Drawn Seldom Drawn, yes we did educate the public. We set road blocks on major roads to inform people of the high fire danger and be cautious, to completely put out campfires. We parked and walked through the heavy use camping sites and made person to person contact informing them of the high fire dangers and to be cautious. Most just snarled and went about their way. A lot were flat out rude and didn't care. They were ".....camping and by golly we're gonna have a campfire!...." From my experience, people just didn't care and it was all about them. Maybe the public has changed, its been many years since I've put on a pair of nomex pants. If you have access to the FLAGscanner....take a listen to the live scanners right around sundown on Memorial Day. You will hear a bunch of calls for abandoned campfires along Lake Mary Rd and points in between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZP&Y Report post Posted May 21, 2013 I've been running around in there the last few years ( post wallow) and every time I'm up there I'm reminded of the sheer stupidity. How many people actually have in there gear arsenal the tools to put out a simple camp fire? A stout shovel, plenty of water. Seems pretty simple but it gets overlooked every time. The excuses go on and on. A half a million acres later.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnFriddle Report post Posted May 21, 2013 People need to be held accountable.... Whatever the restictions are, you're responsible for anything you light on fire. Period.... Putting out your fire, I mean dead out, is the law. I agree with fire rescrictions, I abide by them every year... But If your not going to hold people accountable for their actions all the bans in the world won't stop the idiots from acting like idiots.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpriest Report post Posted May 21, 2013 10 years after these big fires there are always way more deer and elk that use the areas than before.... just saying there are some unintentional benefits to people's carelessness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRS Report post Posted May 22, 2013 Here is where you can check on fire restrictions, I did not see SE AZ listed for FS and BLM, but I know that they also go into effect at midnight tonight. http://firerestrictions.us/az/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cosninocanines Report post Posted May 23, 2013 Good move let's hope all the media attention and sign boards get the job done. BUT there are still those idiots that will disregard this and have a fire in their camp, if you come across this CALL don't interact just CALL 911 or these numbers. Coconino 928-527-3600 Kaibab 928 635-2601 Tonto 480 457-1551 Prescott and A/S have been contacted and I will post when they respond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted May 23, 2013 The soldiers basin fire in unit 35b is now at 7,500 acres and will continue to grow. Lots of whitetail habitat going up in smoke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
