NOTHING IN THE MEDIA !!! Nothing posted on State AG's agenda!

[THE RIFLEMAN]

Well it's been a week since I heard that letters and phone call were sent out to right the perceived corruptions of Shawn Wagner's elk hunting adventures!

NOTHING ON THE NEWS !!!

NOTHING COMING OUT OF THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE!

Well its either a big government conspiracy coverup ......! OR ......Maybe the legal minds at these agency's analyzed the case and didn't see anything worth pursuing! .

Still nothing!!

 

KEEP UR INTERNET LYNCH MOB READY I'M SURE YOU HOLIER THAN THOW PERFECT DIGITAL STONE THROWERS WILL FIND SOMETHING MORE TO WHINE ABOUT!

IM A REDNECK TOO BUT I AINT THAT STUPID!

[Non-Typical Solutions]

Kinda like OJ didn't know he was stealin his own stuff and Obama didn't know it was a terrorist attack on Bengazi.....or the IRS wasn't really "targeting" anybody it just happened to be right wing groups that were being delayed and rejected.

 

You brought it up again for the lynch mob to regroup..........

[richardoutwest]

I don't feel like this was a lynch mod Rifleman, Bonecollector777 posted actual court records on the case. Can you post anything, anything at all that is FACT like court records to prove any of this is incorrect? Even AZGFD officers and AZGFD employees such as John Hurst who went to his supervisor John Romero who took it up the chain to his supervisor Leonard Ordway saying "some stuff that was going on up in the Pinetop area" and that it involved several individuals, including Wagner with "some potential (Title 17) violations." Even AZGFD Director Larry Voyles came to the conclusion that this was an inquiry that was criminal in nature. So no it is not just the "internet lynch mob" that sees wrong doing at the AZGFD.

 

No I do not think that this is a lynch mob at all. It simply is law abiding people that want answers to the actions of the managers involved. Its not about casting the first stone or getting a pound of flesh. IT IS ALL ABOUT JUSTICE.

[PRDATR]

When did Apache Junction get an EL POLLO?

[654321]

You won't see anything else done about this because Mr. Wagner has won his case in court the end. If the state tried to come after Mr. Wagner his lawyer would sue again for harressment. I believe if you read the records you would also notice that Ken Clay had also been disciplined, wouldn't be surprised if he had a court settlement in the works.

[Redman]

wow a whole week....

[joe hunter]

It's the new American way and 99% of the people don't care any more what happens or to who it happens to.....just open your eyes !! The people are following along in the governments footsteps just lie, lie, lie until you believe it yourself, laugh at and try to embarrass people who call you out on it and try to make them look stupid to others even though they are RIGHT. It's happening everywhere, everyday. Spin it, spin it, spin it until it goes away. Just like this AZDGF deal, people aren't wanting to hang anyone from what I've seen they want the TRUTH and justice for all !! but if it gets spun enough it will turn into something else.....just the way some people would like it to.

[THE RIFLEMAN]

Just a weekly update ! LOL

[Non-Typical Solutions]

Just a weekly update ! LOL

After all, Obama did hear about the IRS deal on the news....thanks for the news flash!!!!

 

I am actually interested in a weekly update on this if you can put that on your agenda....thanks........

[THE RIFLEMAN]

Glad to be of service....And I will be more than willing to appologize if this case gets re-tried/re-investigated or even gets any media attention! Even the media has legal experts review things like this and are much better at it than a bunch of redneck hillbillys like us!

Hey richardoutwest re read that part about Larry Voyles conclusions , the investigation was "criminal in nature" .... This is why Mr. Wagner won his suit! The Investigation was not following the protocall according to the law!....Romero and Ordway were on a whitch hunt and stepped on their own dangling loose ends because they jumped to conclusions and did not file the proper paperwork/documents! The court hearing is what brought about the disiplinary actions and did not cover up a thing.... Some of the reason why more were not disiplined was due to the time line as there is a limit as to how long after an inciedent report that a charge can be filed!

[deserttacoma84]

Here we go again...

[Jcubed]

We are going fishing?

[6ANut]

Dbacks are looking good.

[Redman]

Dang it's hot

[richardoutwest]

Do not dispute the fact that the supervisors bungled the investigation and that is why Wagner won his settlement. Under the law he was entitled to his settlement, just as you or I under the same law and circumstances. With that being said, the managers are entitled to the same settlement as you or I for the same laws and circumstance for breaking the law. And yes they did break the law(s).

 

654321 is absolutely correct that nothing will come of anything because the court ordered "the Arizona Game and Fish Department shall remove from Wagner's personnel file all references to this matter".

 

From the court records and not assuming anything. Hurst reported to his supervisor (Romero) of possible criminal activity by the managers. Hurst done what he should have done by law by reporting this his supervisor. Romero also did what he should have done by law and reported it to his supervisor (Ordway). Ordway "knew this could be a Title 17 criminal investigation" and went on up the ladder, doing what he should have done by law. That is how law enforcement works, if you are not law enforcement you may not know how the chain of command works. If they had not done anything, they could be also held liable.

 

From the court records and not hear say, I do not see they went on a witch hunt. I also do not see where Romero had anything to do with the investigation that was bungled. He simply did his duty as a law officer and reported the situation to his supervisor.

 

Do you really think a time line would have been missed if you or I were investigated for these actions. They all are seasoned professionals and have investigated thousands of cases and they just happened to miss the time line on this one.

 

If it were not for Wagner suing the AZGFD, would the public have ever known about this? I think not.

 

Nothing will ever happen, but I think the spot light (may be bad terminology, saying spot light) is on the AZGFD now.

 

Like I said, if you really want to bring justice to the managers, post up legal documents proving your side. For now the only one that has brought any legal proof is Bonecollector777 with court records.

 

Until the next time when Bonecollector777 post up more court records........audios amigos