Republicans Challenge DHS Ammo Buys

[firstcoueswas80]

Have any of you aluminum foil hat wearers bothered to do any math?

 

Let me break down the quals for you for ONE government agency.

 

Say theres 550 or so agents at one station. Each agent is required to shoot a 72 round pistol qual (39,600 bullets minimum, per quarter 158,400 per YEAR), a 59 round rifle qual (32450 minimum per quarter, 129,800 per YEAR) and a minimum 5 round shotgun (2750 minimum per quarter, 11,000 per YEAR) add all that up... 299,200 per year for ONE STATION. Say there are a dozen or more stations that have 500-600 uniformed officers qualing. The numbers add up quickly.

 

 

That does not include training at the academy, speciality triaining, speclial units etc, that is STRICTLY the minimum required qualifications per year.

 

I am not saying that the government is 100% to be trusted, but I am saying there is a need for the ammo that is being purchased.

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Nobody is questioning the federal need for ammo. The exponential increase in ammo purchases in such a short time frame is highly suspect, as well as the collateral effects of these purchases on the private citizens.

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A longshot......

 

Oklahoma Lawmakers Introduce ‘AMMO Act’ to Prevent Feds from Stockpiling Ammo

4/30/13 | by S.H. Blannelberry

Worried that the feds are purposely hoarding ammo which is consequently leading to shortages in the marketplace, two Oklahoma lawmakers introduced a bill last Friday that would place sensible limits on the amount of ammunition the Obama administration is allowed to purchase on a biannual basis.

The AMMO Act, which stands for Ammunition Management for More Obtainability, is the brainchild of U.S. Sen. Jim Inohfe (R-OK) and Congressman Frank Lucas (R-OK) and it would specifically “restrict agencies from obtaining additional ammunition for a six-month period if current agency stockpiles are higher than its monthly averages prior to the Obama Administration.”

According to the bill, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) would keep tabs on the ammo being purchased and stockpiled by the government and weigh that against the relative supply of ammo available to the public. However, the Dept. of Defense would not be included in the evaluation and would be free to purchase ammo, unchecked.

“President Obama has been adamant about curbing law-abiding Americans’ access and opportunities to exercise their Second Amendment rights,” said Inhofe, in a press release.

“One way the Obama Administration is able to do this is by limiting what’s available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition. As the public learned in a House committee hearing this week, the Department of Homeland Security has two years worth of ammo on hand and allots nearly 1,000 more rounds of ammunition for DHS officers than is used on average by our Army officers,” he continued.

“The AMMO Act of 2013 will enforce transparency and accountability of federal agencies’ ammunition supply while also protecting law-abiding citizens access to these resources,” Inhofe concluded.

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DHS make budget cuts on Border Patrol, but still have the money to stockpile ammo?

 

 

DHS Seeks Millions More Rounds of Ammunition

 

Market survey asks companies if they can provide 2 million bullets within 30-60 day period

 

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com

May 3, 2013

 

The Department of Homeland Security has released a market survey asking companies if they are able to provide 2 million rounds of ammunition within a short time period, increasing concerns that the federal agency is continuing its arms build up in preparation for domestic unrest.

 

With the DHS already having committed to purchasing over 1.6 billion bullets over the course of the last year, a “request for information” on “reduced hazard training ammunition” posted on the FedBizOpps website quizzes bullet manufacturers on how fast they can supply large quantities of ammo;

 

 

- Are you capable of producing large quantity orders of any training caliber specified with a short turnaround time of 30-60 days?

 

- What would your lead time be for an order of 2 million rounds of a single type listed above?

 

- If you were awarded a contract for some of the calibers listed above, submitted a production lot of one million rounds and that lot or portion of the lot was not accepted, would you be able to replace that order with an additional one million rounds within 60 days?

 

The DHS’s apparent urge to find companies that can supply them with millions of rounds of ammunition within a short time frame will do little to calm concerns that the federal agency is making contingency plans for riots or some form of social dislocation.

 

The federal agency’s need to find companies that can commit to manufacturing large quantities of bullets quickly also lends credence to claims made by a firearms manufacturer who called into the Michael Savage show in March that the DHS is trying to exhaust ammunition supplies as part of an end run around the Second Amendment.

 

Ammunition is becoming increasingly scarce, with gun stores across the nation forced to resort to bullet rationing in an attempt to satisfy as many customers as they can, while some police departments are having to barter between themselves to meet demand.

 

The market survey also indicates that the DHS is interested in purchasing ammunition that will safely fragment when fired against an “armor steel plate,” which will only serve to stoke fears that the feds are gearing up to use the ammunition in an offensive manner.

 

Despite official denials backed up by unquestioning media reports that the DHS is buying an abnormal amount of bullets, the Government Accountability Office announced earlier this week that an investigation of the purchases is “just getting underway.”

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[coueshunter]

Casey, the first link posted shows that DHS is purchasing 1000 rounds per officer above what our military soldiers use. I think it is a valid question senators are posing to the DHS. nobody believes that agents shouldn't practice, but the massive amounts of ammo over and above our military sure hurts many taxpayers who are struggling just to keep jobs/pay bills. in addition, private consumers are not able to find affordable ammo with the supply being drained by the feds. I don't think this specific question is lacking any credibility regarding. published usage numbers and purchase reports. it also isn't a conspiracy theory if supported by purchase statistics/trends that are available due to the freedom of information act.