Snapshot Report post Posted April 12, 2013 Two are missing from article? Did Your Republican Senator Prevent a Filibuster of Gun Control Bill? Friday, April 12, 2013 16 Republicans just caved in to prevent the possibility of a filibuster of the new gun control legislation. These 16 senator republicans sided with the pro-gun control democrats to get the 60 votes required to prevent a filibuster of the gun control bill today. Here are the 16 senate republicans who you can “thank”. ArizonaJeff Flake (202) 224-4521John McCain (202) 224-2235GeorgiaJohnny Isakson (202) 224-3643Saxby Chambliss (202) 224-3521IllinoisMark Kirk (202) 224-2854MaineSusan Collins (202) 224-2523MississippiRoger Wicker (202) 224-6253North CarolinaRichard Burr (202) 224-3154New HampshireKelly Ayotte (202) 224-3324NevadaDean Heller (202) 224-6244North DakotaJohn Hoeven (202) 224-2551OklahomaTom Coburn (202) 224-5754PennsylvaniaPat Toomey (202) 224-4254South CarolinaLindsey Graham (202) 224-5972TennesseeSens. Lamar Alexander (202) 224-4944Bob Corker (202) 224-3344 Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/2013/04/did-your-republican-senator-prevent-a-filibuster-of-gun-control-bill/#ixzz2QGR6HriF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted April 12, 2013 House GOP shows little appetite for Senate gun control measure By Russell Berman - 04/12/13 06:00 AM ET Growing momentum in the Senate for new gun control legislation has failed to flow down to the House, where just a handful of House Republicans have embraced a deal to expand background checks for firearm purchases. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) and multiple Republican members of the Pennsylvania delegation are backing a compromise brokered by the Keystone State’s Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) that advanced in the Senate on Thursday. Yet in interviews, those lawmakers said they have had no discussions with the House GOP leadership and don’t know what the prospects for the legislation would be in a chamber dominated by conservatives. While party leaders have made a concerted effort to prepare their rank-and-file for a major immigration push this year, they have not done so on the gun issue. Senior aides say the topic has rarely come up in leadership meetings, as top Republicans stick to Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) plan to wait on Senate action on gun control. For a second straight day, Boehner refused Thursday to commit to holding a full House vote on Senate-passed gun legislation. But he said the House would not ignore an issue thrust into the spotlight by the December shooting of 20 schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn. “Listen, our hearts and prayers go out to the families of these victims,” Boehner said. “And I fully expect that the House will act in some way, shape or form.” Any Senate bill, he said, would be referred first to the Judiciary Committee for hearings. Republican leadership aides have cautioned against the expectation of quick House action, noting that the Senate has already been working on gun legislation for nearly four months. The House, an aide said, would expect to take at least as much time. For gun control advocates, the political atmosphere in the GOP-controlled House underscores the heavy lift even to expand background checks and crack down on gun trafficking and straw purchases, which enjoy broad public support in opinion polls. In a press conference with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) announcing the Senate measure, Toomey said the proposal had preliminary support from a number of House Republicans. “I know there are a substantial number of House Republicans that are supportive of this general approach,” said Toomey, a former House member. “There are definitely Republicans in the House that support this.” But with the exception of King and Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.), few had come out with public statements backing the bill, and a Boehner spokesman said he was not aware of any conversations between Toomey and the Speaker. Rep. Mike Thompson (Calif.), the leader of the Democratic House task force on gun violence, said he and King were talking to “about seven or eight House Republicans” about the Toomey bill, which they plan to introduce in the House. Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.), a former FBI agent representing a New York City district with a sizable law enforcement community, said he was open to new gun laws but had yet to see the proposal. “I’m going to be reasonable,” he said. “I’m a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but when it comes to making sure criminals aren’t getting guns, the mentally disturbed are not getting guns and that there are strict penalties for those that are committing crimes, those that illegally have guns, I’m all for that.” “I don’t think the current system is good enough, so I think we do need to tweak the current system a little bit,” Grimm added. At the same time, he characterized himself as “pretty far to the right on the Second Amendment.” Rep. Tom Reed (R-N.Y.), whose district is in upstate New York, took a much more skeptical view of the Toomey proposal. “I’m very concerned that if there’s any language that infringes on the Second Amendment, I’m not very interested in supporting that type of proposal,” he said. Like other Republicans, Reed said the focus of the debate should be more on mental health issues than gun control. The root issue of gun violence, he said, is “the person behind the gun, not the gun itself.” In his district, Reed said he has heard much more from constituents supportive of gun rights, especially in the wake of sweeping gun control legislation passed in January by the state legislature, which he opposed. House Democratic leaders have already begun ramping up pressure on Republicans to consider gun legislation. "If they for a minute think they can throttle this [and] put it on the back shelf or lock it away in the back room, they're going to be incredibly surprised by what happens across this country," Thompson said. For supporters of the Toomey-Manchin proposal, their best hope may be if Boehner decides to allow a House vote even if receives less than majority backing in his conference. The Speaker kept that door ajar on Thursday, reiterating that he does not consider the so-called “Hastert Rule” requiring a “majority of the majority” to be an iron-clad commandment. “It was never a rule to begin with,” said Boehner, who has allowed House Democrats to carry a handful of bills to passage since President Obama’s reelection. “And certainly my prerogative or my intention is to always pass bills with strong Republican support.” Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/293461-house-gop-shows-little-appetite-for-senate-gun-control-measure#ixzz2QGS9YdUlFollow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyolson Report post Posted April 12, 2013 Yes, it's a shame on the Arizona senators part (McCain / Flake) and !!! I will not be voting or supporting anything they are involved in ever again. I do feel sorry for those who were and have been innocently killed in any and all the shootings. Especially children. My thoughts and prayers, as always go out to those families. However, why punish everyone because of a few? (I do know that that is the way of this society these days). This whole thing is crazy!!! I can think of many better ways to spend the tax payers money rather that for Obama’s agenda. Plus this attack and all others against the 2nd amendment (OUR Constitution) is darn right un-AMERICAN!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wellhead Report post Posted April 12, 2013 Senator Murphy form Conn. is asking Fox to not air Saturday's NASCAR race since its sponsored by the NRA. Nice of him to feel that he can now infringe on our 1st A rights! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8OWHUNT247 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 On 4/12/2013 at 4:26 PM, wellhead said: Senator Murphy form Conn. is asking Fox to not air Saturday's NASCAR race since its sponsored by the NRA. Nice of him to feel that he can now infringe on our 1st A rights! Well heck, if the 2nd amendment is "out dated" i geuss the 1st one is too!!! All i can say is COME AND TAKE EM'!!! They just better make sure what they bring is bigger than mine!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted April 12, 2013 On 4/12/2013 at 5:24 PM, 8OWHUNT247 said: On 4/12/2013 at 4:26 PM, wellhead said: Senator Murphy form Conn. is asking Fox to not air Saturday's NASCAR race since its sponsored by the NRA. Nice of him to feel that he can now infringe on our 1st A rights! Well heck, if the 2nd amendment is "out dated" i geuss the 1st one is too!!! All i can say is COME AND TAKE EM'!!! They just better make sure what they bring is bigger than mine!!! LOL What does that request have to do with the 1st amendment? 'Asking' someone not to air something and 'forcing' them not to air something are to completly different things, IMO...... S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8OWHUNT247 Report post Posted April 12, 2013 On 4/12/2013 at 6:23 PM, stanley said: On 4/12/2013 at 5:24 PM, 8OWHUNT247 said: On 4/12/2013 at 4:26 PM, wellhead said: Senator Murphy form Conn. is asking Fox to not air Saturday's NASCAR race since its sponsored by the NRA. Nice of him to feel that he can now infringe on our 1st A rights! Well heck, if the 2nd amendment is "out dated" i geuss the 1st one is too!!! All i can say is COME AND TAKE EM'!!! They just better make sure what they bring is bigger than mine!!! LOL What does that request have to do with the 1st amendment? 'Asking' someone not to air something and 'forcing' them not to air something are to completly different things, IMO...... S. Good Job at picking pepper out of fly sh%t.. Thanks for your input though Stanley...... I wish I was as smart and good looking as you.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted April 12, 2013 Smart and good looking? LOL If you knew me you wouldn't say that! S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghost hunter Report post Posted April 13, 2013 I was disappointed as well, but just because they allowed it to come to the floor and be debated, doesn't mean they are going to vote for it. Stay on the phones, letters, and e-mails. This ain't over yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted April 13, 2013 Obama is going to buy them off. Watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palivs2hnt Report post Posted April 13, 2013 On 4/13/2013 at 1:24 AM, ghost hunter said: I was disappointed as well, but just because they allowed it to come to the floor and be debated, doesn't mean they are going to vote for it. Stay on the phones, letters, and e-mails. This ain't over yet. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cw4192 Report post Posted April 13, 2013 WAKE the f$$k AMERICANS this shoot has been going on for four decades. politicians sell their soul for $$$$$$ Time to wake UP. dont matter if republican or lefty all are GrEEDY f$$Ks. got to get rid of welfare illegal's got to step up for AMERICA and quit taken care of the third world countries. cranival cruise advised the USA that they aint gonna pay the resque bill because WE cant leave a ship in distress at sea? fucc that shoot. WE have been paying for third world countries for years. Has china, russia, japan, mexico, switzerland, canada, germany, any oil rich middle east fu$k$ helped the us in our crisis? Fu44 no. But WE always help them. WAKE UP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted April 14, 2013 McCain and Flake are just like every other dirtbag holding office in Washington. They'd sell their mothers as $2 Hookers in a Third World Prison if they thought they'd get rich off of it, so what difference does it make selling off the rights of constituents??? This crap will continue until all of the career politicians are booted out of Washington and are replaced by regular people who know what it's like to work for a living. The only way that happens is with a 28th Amendment, but try getting that past the career politicians .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites