GANADERONEWZELAND Report post Posted January 26, 2013 hello friends,i have a friend have a problems with a lion my my dog bluetick have 7 months in this moment no redy to lion hunt i want built a box trap for lion for help my friend i have a welding machine lathe and tools for built this but i dont have plans for built any of you can help me with measures or advices for built this box trap?tanks very much friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COUESAZ Report post Posted January 30, 2013 I'm not sure that it is leagle to trap a lion in a cage trap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted January 30, 2013 I'm not sure that it is leagle to trap a lion in a cage trap. Correct, careful what you ask for unless your working for Feds or AZGFD. If someone did catch one in a cage trap, you would need to set it free asap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted January 30, 2013 LOCATION: CHIHUAHUA MEXICO Greetings from northerm CHIHUAHUA MEXICOIn search of a male bluetick lion hunt near to border tanks colleaguesGanaderonewzeland@gmail.com(011526251366145)92*12*56598 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest akaspecials Report post Posted January 30, 2013 His location says Mexico. The laws may be different there regarding trapping. I have no clue though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted January 30, 2013 That might explain the grammar as well... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted January 30, 2013 That might explain the grammar as well... Detective Altherr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peloncillo Report post Posted January 30, 2013 but placed in such a manner that the mountain lion would enter the trap under the auspices of gaining access to the penned goats. The trap was successful in capturing an 85 pound female mountain lion. The following year, 2 more mountain lions were captured with the trap. In both instances, the fresh mountain lion kills were carcasses of a goat and sheep which were used for bait. After each capture, the trap needed major repairs, as both lions had almost made successful escapes. This was due to the large 6" x 8" grid panels. The valuable knowledge gained from those first captures was instrumental in building a more effective and durable cage trap. It was concluded that some mountain lions would enter a cage trap even if they had to lower their heads to gain clearance. However, a taller trap would allow the mountain lion to enter easily with plenty of head room. A larger trap would also seem less confining to the mountain lion and help reduce trap shyness. A larger cage trap was built in 1987. The trap measures 5' x 5' x 10' and was built with a detachable panel frame. The panels can be unbolted from each other and transported to remote locations and reassembled. The trap can also be transported by loading it onto a small utility trailer or towed by attaching a set of tires to the bottom of the trap. A small version of the mountain lion cage trap was built in 1989. It measured 4' x 4' x 10' and was built with a solid frame. This trap can easily be loaded into a pickup for transporting or loaded onto a utility trailer and towed with an ATV to remote locations. Commercially made galvanized stock panels were used for the sides, the top and bottom, and the door. The panels are made from 3/16" galvanized rods welded together to form a 2" x 4" grid pattern. This size of pattern gives added strength to the trap versus the larger (4" x 4"; 6" x 8"; 8" x 10") grid patterns. The smaller grid prevents the lion's possible escape, the lion's reaching through and striking at objects outside the trap, and the trap’s repair after each capture. The 2" x 4" mesh does not restrict light from entering the trap, such as solid panels or a culvert trap would do. Being well-lit with little view obstruction, the trap gives a less confined feeling. The door is mounted to the top of the trap by bearing plates. The bearing plates mounted on each side of the door contain a sealed bearing from which the door pivots. The bearings give the door a smooth movement and a fast closure speed. Under most operating conditions, the closure speed is sufficient from the weight of the door only. A half second is the average speed of the door closure. If more speed is needed, a coil spring at the top of the door can be adjusted. Two spring bolt gate latches are located on the doors outside lower corners. These latches hook over the bottom frame of the trap when the door is closed. The floor treadle is a 1.5' x 4' metal plate located 2' from the inside rear of the trap. The set trap is activated when the floor treadle is depressed. A tension spring located on the top lever arm can be set to any poundage, thus eliminating catching smaller non-target animals entering the trap. When sufficient weight is applied to depress the treadle, a lever arm releases the set door. The door then swings from its top inside horizontal set position in a down and outward arc to close in a vertical position. FIELD APPLICATION Before California ADC can initiate depredation control activities or remove a mountain lion for public health and safety reasons, a depredation permit or written authorization must be issued by the California Department of Fish and Game. When a resource owner finds a fresh mountain lion kill, it is critical that they obtain a permit and contact ADC quickly. The best chances for capturing the offending mountain lion is the first night after the initial kill. Several mountain lions have been captured at dusk while returning to feed on the carcass; therefore, it is imperative that the trap be baited and set several hours before dark. Often the mountain lion has moved the carcass to a different location to feed on it. This new location should be the site where the cage trap needs to be set. If several kills were made, use the carcass which has been most fed upon and remove the rest. If the trap cannot be placed at the carcass site, set the trap as close as possible; then drag the carcass to the trap. When dragging the carcass, be sure to leave a good scent trail for the returning lion to follow. Hang the carcass or bait in the back of the trap behind the treadle. A minimum space of 6" should be left between the carcass and the rear wall of the trap. This will prevent the mountain lion from pulling pieces of the carcass from outside the cage trap. Attach the carcass securely so that it cannot be removed from the trap or pulled under the treadle by the lion before the trap is sprung. Any obstacle under the treadle may cause the trap not to activate properly. The floor and treadle should be completely covered with leaves, grass and preferably dirt. The treadle tension should then be set at approximately 15 pounds to prevent accidental capture of non-target species. Test fire the trigger mechanism to insure the door closes smoothly and clears the material covering the floor. Outside the trap, use brush and limbs on top, sides, and rear to camouflage the trap and give it a more natural appearance. 369 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peloncillo Report post Posted January 30, 2013 I just copied that from a website on google. Hope that helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GANADERONEWZELAND Report post Posted February 3, 2013 hi friends tanks very much for you answer, i I live in mexico This lion has killed some calves of my friend we export to these calves to USA is very clever We are authorized to capture or hunt only to protect heritage thank you very much for your help to Peloncillo If you have any photos I would be very useful when my dog is ready to hunt lions dont need traps, (In this place there many deer Coues) cherrs all my friends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperwrx Report post Posted August 10, 2013 Briarpatch Cages out of Carefree, AZ. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afmalinois Report post Posted August 10, 2013 Do you draw straws to see who lets that pissed off ball of fur out? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoghntr Report post Posted August 12, 2013 Holy crap throw that mess right off a cliff! or possibly allow a greeenie to release the sweet lil pudy cat. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNEEKEE1 Report post Posted August 12, 2013 Have seen them caught in hog traps back east and in bob cat traps Mo game and fish said there was no mountain lions in the area haha they ate there words when one was caught in a trap with a collar on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites