Strip Super Raffle Buck

[mzlloader]

Well I was not going to reply to this at all, yall got good and bad points and opinons on the matter. and that is just what they are opinions every one is entitled to there own. here are some points that were not brought up.

 

Game and fish are now publishing the reg in spanish, I thought we used english in the United States. what a waste of money. Just my opinion.

 

Game and Fish is doing a roadless study and paying for it. I thought that was BLM's back yard, Why do the sportsman have to fund this study, Just My opinion

 

Those are just two. if that money was used to HELP our wildlife instead of those programs, well you get my drift, Just my opinon.

 

Now as far as tax deductions, I dont think you can deduct any money paid for an auction or a raffle, I know that I donated a couple of 100 buck on raffle tickets last year, but could not use it as a tax deduction because it was on chance I would get someing in return. I also could not find any where where game and fish is a non prophit organization. and that is who is holding the raffle, and where the money goes.

 

I do belive the money goes to the animals on the tags, IE ELk tag money goes to help elk here in Az, Muledeer to help muledeer, and so on and so on.

 

 

like I said just my opinion and .01 cents worth cause I cant afford to give the other .01 cent my ex wife gets it

 

and before some says it, Yes I may not donate a lot of money, But I do donate sweat and time, I will be in unit 9 this weekend helping up there and I always carry items in my jeep to mend a fence or tack down some tin that has come off a catchment in my home area.

 

 

R L

[redneck74]

Well I was not going to reply to this at all, yall got good and bad points and opinons on the matter. and that is just what they are opinions every one is entitled to there own. here are some points that were not brought up.

 

Game and fish are now publishing the reg in spanish, I thought we used english in the United States. what a waste of money. Just my opinion.

 

Game and Fish is doing a roadless study and paying for it. I thought that was BLM's back yard, Why do the sportsman have to fund this study, Just My opinion

 

Those are just two. if that money was used to HELP our wildlife instead of those programs, well you get my drift, Just my opinon.

 

Now as far as tax deductions, I dont think you can deduct any money paid for an auction or a raffle, I know that I donated a couple of 100 buck on raffle tickets last year, but could not use it as a tax deduction because it was on chance I would get someing in return. I also could not find any where where game and fish is a non prophit organization. and that is who is holding the raffle, and where the money goes.

 

I do belive the money goes to the animals on the tags, IE ELk tag money goes to help elk here in Az, Muledeer to help muledeer, and so on and so on.

 

 

like I said just my opinion and .01 cents worth cause I cant afford to give the other .01 cent my ex wife gets it

 

and before some says it, Yes I may not donate a lot of money, But I do donate sweat and time, I will be in unit 9 this weekend helping up there and I always carry items in my jeep to mend a fence or tack down some tin that has come off a catchment in my home area.

 

 

R L

 

yes you can write off money used to purchase raffle tickets and auction tags. This is fact. As long as the organization you are buying from is 501c3 status

[mzlloader]

Michael was not sure on that but good if you can I just dont see it here

 

Charitable Contributions - Types of Qualified Charitable Organizations

 

Generally, only the six following types of charitable organizations can be qualified charitable organizations and accept tax deductible charitable contributions.

 

The United States, a U.S. Possession, a state, city, or town, or Indian tribal government;

A community chest, corporation, trust, fund, or foundation organized or created in or under the laws of the United States, any state, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States (including Puerto Rico). It must be organized and operated only for the following purposes:

Religious,

Charitable,

Educational,

Scientific,

Literary purposes, or

For the prevention of cruelty to children or animals;

Certain organizations that foster national or international amateur sports competition also qualify;

Domestic non-profit veterans' organizations or auxiliary units;

A domestic fraternal group operating under the lodge system;

Nonprofit cemetery and burial companies (your charitable contribution must benefit the whole cemetery, not your burial plot);

Legal services corporations organized under the Legal Service Corporation Act

 

 

if so good we need all the deductions we can get, I still dont think game and fish is a charitable organiztion. is it.

 

Oh and those raffle tickets I bought last year were for a bow that a local CHURCH was giving away

[shortpants]

Like I said before, I agree with Noel that we don't have to agree with everything azgfd does but I do think overall their doing a pretty good job. heck, for the most part I think they do an outstanding job. That being said I do have one thing that just gets under my skin while we're on the subject. How is it legal, or even moral for them to force hunt applicants to buy a license even if not drawn? For all of you who did'nt get drawn for anything but are now the proud owner of a hunting license your not going to use, how does this make you feel? I have a good friend who lives out of state who can't afford to give azgfd $100+ (can't remember exact figure) for nothing in return every year until he draws a bull elk tag in this state! I know this does'nt really bother most of you but you have to admit, from their point of view that's highway robbery! Just my 0.2c.

[redneck74]

Michael was not sure on that but good if you can I just dont see it here

 

Charitable Contributions - Types of Qualified Charitable Organizations

 

Generally, only the six following types of charitable organizations can be qualified charitable organizations and accept tax deductible charitable contributions.

 

The United States, a U.S. Possession, a state, city, or town, or Indian tribal government;

A community chest, corporation, trust, fund, or foundation organized or created in or under the laws of the United States, any state, the District of Columbia, or any possession of the United States (including Puerto Rico). It must be organized and operated only for the following purposes:

Religious,

Charitable,

Educational,

Scientific,

Literary purposes, or

For the prevention of cruelty to children or animals;

Certain organizations that foster national or international amateur sports competition also qualify;

Domestic non-profit veterans' organizations or auxiliary units;

A domestic fraternal group operating under the lodge system;

Nonprofit cemetery and burial companies (your charitable contribution must benefit the whole cemetery, not your burial plot);

Legal services corporations organized under the Legal Service Corporation Act

 

 

if so good we need all the deductions we can get, I still dont think game and fish is a charitable organiztion. is it.

 

Oh and those raffle tickets I bought last year were for a bow that a local CHURCH was giving away

dude a 501c3 status is a charitable organization. SCI, FNAWS, MDF RMEF AND SO ON ARE ALL CHARITABLE!!!!

 

What part of that do you not understand??? The game and fish departments give the tags to these organizations...they they are auctioned off...the buyer doesnt pay the state, they pay the organization which is a 501c3. So if you want to argue at least get you facts in order. Why dont you call them and find out for youeself instead of running you mouth about something you know nothing about

 

Like I said before, I agree with Noel that we don't have to agree with everything azgfd does but I do think overall their doing a pretty good job. heck, for the most part I think they do an outstanding job. That being said I do have one thing that just gets under my skin while we're on the subject. How is it legal, or even moral for them to force hunt applicants to buy a license even if not drawn? For all of you who did'nt get drawn for anything but are now the proud owner of a hunting license your not going to use, how does this make you feel? I have a good friend who lives out of state who can't afford to give azgfd $100+ (can't remember exact figure) for nothing in return every year until he draws a bull elk tag in this state! I know this does'nt really bother most of you but you have to admit, from their point of view that's highway robbery! Just my 0.2c.

I agree that is wrong...why pay for the license if you cant hunt.

[DesertBull]

Like I said before, I agree with Noel that we don't have to agree with everything azgfd does but I do think overall their doing a pretty good job. heck, for the most part I think they do an outstanding job. That being said I do have one thing that just gets under my skin while we're on the subject. How is it legal, or even moral for them to force hunt applicants to buy a license even if not drawn? For all of you who did'nt get drawn for anything but are now the proud owner of a hunting license your not going to use, how does this make you feel? I have a good friend who lives out of state who can't afford to give azgfd $100+ (can't remember exact figure) for nothing in return every year until he draws a bull elk tag in this state! I know this does'nt really bother most of you but you have to admit, from their point of view that's highway robbery! Just my 0.2c.

 

AMEN!

 

Why should I have to buy a hunting license until I know I will be able to hunt? Some will say, "yeah, but you can hunt doves, and quail, and rabbits, etc." I don't want to hunt that stuff, I want to hunt deer. If I get lucky and get a deer tag I will gladly buy a hunting license. If I want to archery deer hunting, I will buy a license and tag for that too, but it's called a HUNTING LICENSE, not a license to APPLY for a hunt.

[mzlloader]

Michael

 

I do understand what you are saying, I am not arguing that point, yes game and fish gives xxxxxx organizaion a elk, deer, or what ever tag, That organization, raffles, or auctions the tag off. and even then you cannot deduct the whole donation,(there are ways around it, but whoever does it better have their ducks in a row)

 

what I mean by this is. lets just use RMEF they raffle a Non Guided elk Hunt. someone buys 200 tickets at 10 bucks each, he wins the tag, all that can be deducted is the Value of what he won, in the case 83.00 bucks the price of the tag.

 

same goes with an auction the only part that can be deducted is the value of what was bought.

 

Like I said there are ways around everything but if IRS calls and does an audit you better be prepared.

 

I am not trying to argue the with anyone here. Just so you know where I got that info I called IRS and got the info.

 

so the tax deductions are there but just not as huge as one would think.

[COOSEFAN]

All I know as far as deductions is after I bought several paintings at a banquet, all I could write off was the amount that I spent "OVER" fair market value. I could not write off what the item was worth, just what I presumably spent over and above what the item cost normally. Maybe that's changed recently? JIM>

[mzlloader]

All in all its a mood point. and does not really matter to me, if you can deduct it Great, everyone knows we need all we can get now days. I was just quoating IRS. and like I said there are ways around everything,

 

I am not a tax guy and there are so many rules and reg on the subject. Thats why I take my stuff to an accountant.

[DEERSLAM]

I have a good friend who lives out of state who can't afford to give azgfd $100+ (can't remember exact figure) for nothing in return every year until he draws a bull elk tag in this state! I know this does'nt really bother most of you but you have to admit, from their point of view that's highway robbery! Just my 0.2c.

 

 

Amen shortpants. I play the lottery game in 7-10 states every year and I have, because I'm forced to buy them to put in for the drawn, hunting licenses for AZ., CA., NEV., OR., and ID. That's over $450.00 just to apply for the draw. I'm seriously rethinking this.

[.270]

personally, i don't like the auction or the raffle. usually some guy with a lotta bucks buy enough raffle tickets that he gets it. and we all know that some very wealthy guy gets auction permits. here's my take. how much money does the azgfd, or any state, bring in? put that in one collumn. how much money do all the auction and raffle tags bring in? put that in another collumn. the auction and raffle tags make up a very small percentage of what it takes to run the wildlife programs in any state. small enough that the state probably wouldn't even miss it. and nothing like everyone tries to say it does. i've "done the math". it just ain't there. if all they had was a raffle and there was a limit on how many tickets a guy could buy, i'd be ok with that. joe hunter would have a chance. sure, there might be some pet project that doesn't get done or some fence won't get built for some guy whinin' about wildlife damage to his property, but nothing important is going to go lacking. all the auction and raffle does is give a few folks with more money than other folks a chance at really great hunting. don't get me wrong, if i had the bucks, i'd be there with a suitcase full buyin' every tag i could. and i own every reservation elk tag, with unlimited funds. but i don't think it does the states enough good to make a difference. if they quit the program, the only folks who would miss it would be the guys with all the money. Lark.

p.s. dang, that's a big buck. too bad they didn't wait till it was de-velveted.

[redneck74]

personally, i don't like the auction or the raffle. usually some guy with a lotta bucks buy enough raffle tickets that he gets it. and we all know that some very wealthy guy gets auction permits. here's my take. how much money does the azgfd, or any state, bring in? put that in one collumn. how much money do all the auction and raffle tags bring in? put that in another collumn. the auction and raffle tags make up a very small percentage of what it takes to run the wildlife programs in any state. small enough that the state probably wouldn't even miss it. and nothing like everyone tries to say it does. i've "done the math". it just ain't there. if all they had was a raffle and there was a limit on how many tickets a guy could buy, i'd be ok with that. joe hunter would have a chance. sure, there might be some pet project that doesn't get done or some fence won't get built for some guy whinin' about wildlife damage to his property, but nothing important is going to go lacking. all the auction and raffle does is give a few folks with more money than other folks a chance at really great hunting. don't get me wrong, if i had the bucks, i'd be there with a suitcase full buyin' every tag i could. and i own every reservation elk tag, with unlimited funds. but i don't think it does the states enough good to make a difference. if they quit the program, the only folks who would miss it would be the guys with all the money. Lark.

p.s. dang, that's a big buck. too bad they didn't wait till it was de-velveted.

 

 

WELL THE AUCTION AND RAFFLE TAGS BROUGHT IN OVER A MILLION THIS YEAR. TELL ME WHO WOULDNT MISS MORE THAT A MILLION$$$

[Noel Arnold]

Lark,

Great response.Just to stir the pot a little more I will say that auction tag's are like legal poaching(taking a animal in the off season)

Noel

[redneck74]

Lark,

Great response.Just to stir the pot a little more I will say that auction tag's are like legal poaching(taking a animal in the off season)

Noel

 

 

OKAY SMARTA$$ IF YOU WON A RAFFLE TAG WOULD YOU HUNT AT ANY TIME OF YEAR? BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO HUNT 365 DAYS

 

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

[DesertBull]

I thought that the groups that auctioned the tags get the money. Example, the ADA auctioned off two Coues tags and a Muley tag last spring. Doesn't that money go to the ADA for habitat projects, and not back to the G&F?

 

The groups have to apply for those tags and they are awarded by the G&F. Sometime the AES get sthe elk tags and sometime the RMEF gets them.

 

The Mule Deer Foundation got one muley tag and the ADA got one this year, I believe.