sjvcon Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Okay ... I've caught the Black Rifle Bug. I just bought a SIG 716 Patrol so I'd have something in .308. Now I want to build my own AR15 in .223 for something cheap to shoot and something my boys can shoot without a lot of recoil. Question is this ... I've read a couple of posts by some guy that said if you aren't a qualified gunsmith and haven't taken a armorer's course you should not waste your time or money trying to assemble your own. I was under the impression that they were pretty modular, and that if you bought good mil-spec parts and had decent hands on skills you could build a pretty nice rifle. So which is it??? I haven't done much work on rifles, other than installing some Timney's that needed to be hand fit, and putting together a nice 10/22 from very high end parts (which I don't mind saying is an absolute TACK DRIVER ... obviously it was the parts and not the assembly). So is this something I should tackle, or should I just buy one somewhere? It is less about the money and more about getting good quality parts. I like working on guns, so I don't mind a little challenge. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I have several friends that have no other qualifications other then being looneys that build great black rifles including one of the ones i have in my safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I have assembled several for my self and others. Its pretty simple aslong as you have the right tools. and there are a few guilds on line. What side of town do you live on? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uofahughes2 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I've been eyeballin this kit since the election. Just need to find a stripped lower. http://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=78 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
123456 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I am definetly intersted too. Anyone who has already built some have some recommendations on which parts kits to buy and which one's not too. Seems you can get quite a few rifles now already built for less than 900$. just curious if building you own has it's advantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I am on the southeast side ... Queen Creek. I saw where SGC offers a course for $400 once in a while. 2 Day Seminar. Not sure that it is necessary or worth it. I am going to watch a few videos. Already assembling my parts lists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Ar15. Com has a step by step guild. My advice is build the lower and buy a complete upper As for parts kits if your ising a standard mill spec trigger they are all about the same. Ive had good luck eith dpmss parks kit. I wanted a short fast varmit m4 so i built thia one i and topped it witb a eotech. 512. http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/31226-fox-pro-strikes-againii/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 22, 2012 http://www.ar15.com/content/guides/assembly/lower/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted November 22, 2012 http://www.ar15.com/...assembly/lower/ Good guide. Kinda want to do my own upper too ... I'll have to look into how tough that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted November 23, 2012 I sure like the Rock River two-stage trigger. I've known a few guys who put together the lower halves with success - I haven't tried it yet. Seems the upper halves can be a little more complicated with the gas tube. It's pretty critical you get that right, since it powers the cycling action. Too much gas too soon, and you're stripping through the cartridge base too early while it's still expanding against the chamber. Not enough and you don't cycle fully. From what I've read, this delicate tuning issue got a lot of our guys killed back in the early days of the AR (M16 in 'Nam) when different burning powder was used to test vs. what was issued. Google "Saga of the Black Rifle". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaffer62 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 I built my own AR15 last year with no previous experience. its pretty straight forward. Follow the guide on AR15.com and you should have no problems. You can even go to http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/how-to-build-ar-15-rifle to see a nice overview. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Anyone who has built one had any issues with part fitment ... that was the one thing this guy who posted said ... something like "if you don't know what you are looking for in fitment, you will screw it up". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted November 23, 2012 http://www.ar15.com/...assembly/lower/ Good guide. Kinda want to do my own upper too ... I'll have to look into how tough that is. they have a guild to assemble the upper aswell. As for fitting parts. I have assembed numerous combinations of mismatch brands and so far evey thing fits perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 Anyone who has built one had any issues with part fitment ... that was the one thing this guy who posted said ... something like "if you don't know what you are looking for in fitment, you will screw it up". Mil spec fixes that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Well that settles it ... I'm building my own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
