elkaholic Report post Posted November 13, 2012 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? Obama and the truth have never met. He is the most consummate liar there is. What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship). DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST Verified by Snopes: snopes.com: U.N. Arms Trade Treaty A U.N. small arms treaty signed by the U.S. provides a 'legal way around the 2nd Amendment'? ...U.N. Arms Trade Treaty Claim: A U.N. small arms treaty signed by the U.S. provides a "legal way around the 2nd Amendment." Example: [Collected via... ...bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton signed the small arms treaty with the UN. OBAMA FINDS LEGAL WAY AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND USES... ...gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing... Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:55:42 GMT http://www.snopes.co...ns/untreaty.asp CAN'T BEL;IEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ, BUT I BELIEVE BE YOU SHOULD BE READY FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES DOWN THE PIKE.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeardownAZ Report post Posted November 13, 2012 I went to the Snopes website and it claims that info is false and gave an explanation as to why. Weither or not Snopes tells the truth I dont know. I have no doubt were obama stands on the 2nd Amendment either way and his distortion about that he believes in the individual right to arms is not completely truthful. He hides his motives with double talk and such. You can see it in his words and actions. I provided the links below. http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/President/US/Barack_Obama/Views/The_Second_Amendment/ http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted November 13, 2012 Screw snopes. What makes them the authority on truth? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 13, 2012 I see revolution in the future. I will die, before I give one inch, to the liberal evil spreading through this country. Come and get my guns, I dare you! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nighthawk Report post Posted November 14, 2012 I honestly believe if they ever got to that point were they wanted us to turn in our guns, it would be the start of a civil war against the gov. Would not be a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. The number is growing, hopefully it will reach 50, and send firm notice to the whitehouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazpilot25 Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. The number is growing, hopefully it will reach 50, and send firm notice to the whitehouse. Yes, we're now at 50. Several of which have reached over 25,000 signatures requiring a response from the white house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazpilot25 Report post Posted November 14, 2012 I refuse to ever "turn in" my guns. I will go down shooting before that day comes. But this is a clear sign of things to come, much tougher regulations on guns and gun ownership are coming down the pipeline. I believe it's time to stock up my friends. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted November 14, 2012 I refuse to ever "turn in" my guns. I will go down shooting before that day comes. But this is a clear sign of things to come, much tougher regulations on guns and gun ownership are coming down the pipeline. I believe it's time to stock up my friends. Plus 1 on that one...........it is a battle to be fought and there are many who I believe would give up their lives as opposed to turning in their guns................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. The number is growing, hopefully it will reach 50, and send firm notice to the whitehouse. Yes, we're now at 50. Several of which have reached over 25,000 signatures requiring a response from the white house. wouldn't it be easier to just kick Washington DC out of the country? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. The number is growing, hopefully it will reach 50, and send firm notice to the whitehouse. Yes, we're now at 50. Several of which have reached over 25,000 signatures requiring a response from the white house. wouldn't it be easier to just kick Washington DC out of the country? Thats a good idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Obama and his Whitehouse cronies will just laugh in the face of Americans....as is his normal "Modus Operandi" The writing is going up on the wall. Americans are getting sick and tired of our lame government. Time to make changes. Thanks to weak Republican Party,and voter turnout, we could have started those changes on November 6th. http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/secession-petitioners-aint-whistling-dixie.html?test=latestnews Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted November 14, 2012 Hey Snapshot I believe there are now 27 States wanting to secede from the union. The number is growing, hopefully it will reach 50, and send firm notice to the whitehouse. Yes, we're now at 50. Several of which have reached over 25,000 signatures requiring a response from the white house. wouldn't it be easier to just kick Washington DC out of the country? I'll vote for doing some kicking out...............send them to the countries that they want us to be like............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted November 14, 2012 To kick them out...we just have to get past the S.S, The military, and all those highly trained people that have access to some serious weaponry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites