Scooter Report post Posted October 2, 2012 Do yourself a favor and focus his attention towards a pair of bino's or a spotting scope. That way he's more gainfully employed, learning something, and you don't have to worry about whether or not the iron on his hip is legal. My Brother already does help out with the spotting. He knows the do's and don't s of gun safety. I just wanted to see if he could carry legally. Go Get 'em!!! Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted October 2, 2012 shoot I misread his post. I didn't realize he was a minor. take back my earlier thoughts/opinions. I'll second the bino idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazpilot25 Report post Posted October 2, 2012 If he's NOT hunting, he cannot carry. Sidearm or rifle. Have him carry some binos and stick close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PelaPapas Report post Posted October 2, 2012 Thanks to everyone for all the help/input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COUESAZ Report post Posted October 2, 2012 If he is 15 have him buy a hunting Lic. He should have one anyways at his age. With a valid hunting Lic it changes things. Also I am sure that he can Cary a side arm in the field of hunting. I will keep looking but I think the law was posted before by someone. I know There are people on this site that know the answer. They just have not read it yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nastynate Report post Posted October 3, 2012 If he is 15 have him buy a hunting Lic. He should have one anyways at his age. With a valid hunting Lic it changes things. Also I am sure that he can Cary a side arm in the field of hunting. I will keep looking but I think the law was posted before by someone. I know There are people on this site that know the answer. They just have not read it yet. +1. Having him get a hunting license would make him legal to carry while he is with you in the field as long as he can say the pistol is for the take of small game if he is stopped or questioned by law enforcement. The only question is if he is wiling to spend the $32.25 to be able to carry while on the hunt. Perhaps he could even make use of the license and try and harvest small game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted October 3, 2012 While "hunting" a minor can only carry a sidearm when accompanied by an adult! The key is while "hunting" I would call G&F to get their input on the subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted October 3, 2012 he can get a youth combo for $26.50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkrack Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Answer - NO 13-3111. Minors prohibited from carrying or possessing firearms; exceptions; seizure and forfeiture; penalties; classification A. Except as provided in subsection B, an unemancipated person who is under eighteen years of age and who is unaccompanied by a parent, grandparent or guardian, or a certified hunter safety instructor or certified firearms safety instructor acting with the consent of the unemancipated person's parent or guardian, shall not knowingly carry or possess on his person, within his immediate control, or in or on a means of transportation a firearm in any place that is open to the public or on any street or highway or on any private property except private property owned or leased by the minor or the minor's parent, grandparent or guardian. B. This section does not apply to a person who is fourteen, fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age and who is any of the following: 1. Engaged in lawful hunting or shooting events or marksmanship practice at established ranges or other areas where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited. 2. Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm for the purpose of lawful hunting. 3. Engaged in lawful transportation of an unloaded firearm between the hours of 5:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. for the purpose of shooting events or marksmanship practice at established ranges or other areas where the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited. 4. Engaged in activities requiring the use of a firearm that are related to the production of crops, livestock, poultry, livestock products, poultry products, or ratites or in the production or storage of agricultural commodities. C. If the minor is not exempt under subsection B and is in possession of a firearm, a peace officer shall seize the firearm at the time the violation occurs. D. In addition to any other penalty provided by law, a person who violates subsection A shall be subject to the following penalties: 1. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving an unloaded firearm, a fine of not more than two hundred fifty dollars, and the court may order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of the adjudication, the court may direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. 2. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving a loaded firearm, a fine of not more than five hundred dollars, and the court may order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of the adjudication, the court may direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. 3. If adjudicated a delinquent juvenile for an offense involving a loaded or unloaded firearm, if the person possessed the firearm while the person was the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle, a fine of not more than five hundred dollars and the court shall order the suspension or revocation of the person's driver license until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the person does not have a driver license at the time of adjudication, the court shall direct that the department of transportation not issue a driver license to the person until the person reaches eighteen years of age. If the court finds that no other means of transportation is available, the driving privileges of the child may be restricted to travel between the child's home, school and place of employment during specified periods of time according to the child's school and employment schedule. E. Firearms seized pursuant to subsection C shall be held by the law enforcement agency responsible for the seizure until the charges have been adjudicated or disposed of otherwise or the person is convicted. Upon adjudication or conviction of a person for a violation of this section, the court shall order the firearm forfeited. However, the law enforcement agency shall return the firearm to the lawful owner if the identity of that person is known. F. If the court finds that the parent or guardian of a minor found responsible for violating this section knew or reasonably should have known of the minor's unlawful conduct and made no effort to prohibit it, the parent or guardian is jointly and severally responsible for any fine imposed pursuant to this section or for any civil actual damages resulting from the unlawful use of the firearm by the minor. G. This section is supplemental to any other law imposing a criminal penalty for the use or exhibition of a deadly weapon. A minor who violates this section may be prosecuted and adjudicated delinquent for any other criminal conduct involving the use or exhibition of the deadly weapon. H. A person who violates subsection A is guilty of a class 6 felony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooter Report post Posted October 3, 2012 What exactly was the expected use of the pistol? I'm just confused as to why you or he feels strongly like he would need to carry it? There's really no wrong answer, maybe self defense? I just don't think that an unlicensed minor tagging along on a hunt ought to carry ANY firearms at ANY age... Tagging along means helping glass and carrying large items uphill. If he's hunting, he has to hunt within your control. He has to have a license. Do you really expect that he'll be doing much small game hunting or target shooting while you are out pursuing deer? I am of the firm belief that EVERYBODY has the right to self defense- to include minors- but under the current laws it seems like you'd be better off leaving the pistol home or in the truck on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ready2hunt Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Sounds like as mentioned previously that if he has a hunting license and he is squirrel hunting/varmit calling etc that he is fine per sec. B paragraph 1. I say if he wants too get a license then him have at it. Sounds like the expected use of the pistol is just for enjoyment. I say let him enjoy it if you don't mind him making the noise and spookin' your animal Growing up some of my favoraite memories were of my dad and I just stopping and shooting during his hunts. Obviously we did it during the less effective hours of the hunt though and this situation (as mentioned in the begining) is a little different. It's your hunt, have fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PelaPapas Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Sounds like as mentioned previously that if he has a hunting license and he is squirrel hunting/varmit calling etc that he is fine per sec. B paragraph 1. I say if he wants too get a license then him have at it. Sounds like the expected use of the pistol is just for enjoyment. I say let him enjoy it if you don't mind him making the noise and spookin' your animal Growing up some of my favoraite memories were of my dad and I just stopping and shooting during his hunts. Obviously we did it during the less effective hours of the hunt though and this situation (as mentioned in the begining) is a little different. It's your hunt, have fun! Like you said it above, he wants to carry because he wants to, I remember my cousins carrying at a young age, all were very responsible. I didnt start carrying until I was 18 because I never had a handgun of my own. I see no problem in letting him carry while he tags along with me. There wont be any target shooting until the last day before we leave back home. I for sure would rather him carry a side arm on him, than not while were out hunting. This is a new unit for me, and you never know who/what you might run into out there. He's very responsible for his age and knows all about proper gun safety. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PelaPapas Report post Posted October 3, 2012 What exactly was the expected use of the pistol? I'm just confused as to why you or he feels strongly like he would need to carry it? There's really no wrong answer, maybe self defense? I just don't think that an unlicensed minor tagging along on a hunt ought to carry ANY firearms at ANY age... Tagging along means helping glass and carrying large items uphill. If he's hunting, he has to hunt within your control. He has to have a license. Do you really expect that he'll be doing much small game hunting or target shooting while you are out pursuing deer? I am of the firm belief that EVERYBODY has the right to self defense- to include minors- but under the current laws it seems like you'd be better off leaving the pistol home or in the truck on this one. See above post ^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PelaPapas Report post Posted October 3, 2012 I might pick him up a youth license. Wouldn't hurt to get some rabbit for lunch or maybe have him get a coyote while were out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archerycrazy Report post Posted October 3, 2012 Federal Law applies. A person under the age of 21 can not buy or possess a handgun. Check with you local BATF office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
