coueshunter Report post Posted September 9, 2012 i am thinking of using coal at night for my tent stove. any thoughts on this and any ideas on where to buy coal in greater phoenix area?......thanks......allen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted September 9, 2012 If you do get one of these. http://qginc.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYCE CANYON Report post Posted September 10, 2012 It works great and burns hot. Get it from the Peabody mine in Kayenta or from one of your local Navajo tribal members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted September 10, 2012 Is the point of using coal because it burns slower and so will last longer at night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted September 10, 2012 My thought was that at night, coal would burn longer so if nobody got up, you would still have fire going. two years back we got to -19 on the Kaibab and it is a real pain in the butt re-starting the fire at 2:00 am.............sure dont want carbon monoxide issues so if anyone knows anything to watch out for, please let me know.............Allen............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted September 10, 2012 I would think it's wise to use a carbon monoxide detector as mentioned by another poster.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outdoor Writer Report post Posted September 10, 2012 Allen, Coal burns really, really hot. When we lived in Colorado, we burned large chunks of in our fireplace at night. You shouldn't have any more of a CO problem with coal than you would have with wood, BUT...unless you have a stove made of really thick steel, the coal might cause some damage. The heavy steel log holder in a our fireplace, made with 3/4" thick steel bars, was completely reshaped by the burning coal. It often turned red in places while the coal was burning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted September 10, 2012 I don't know anything about stoves so I'll ask. When you leave in the morning to hunt how does the coal get put out when nobody is there to keep an eye on it? I use a propane fired Heater Buddy and with a 5' hose I can attach it to a 5gal cylinder which I keep outside the tent I also keep the tent ventilated and the heater has a low oxygen sensor built in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nighthawk Report post Posted September 10, 2012 I don't know anything about stoves so I'll ask. When you leave in the morning to hunt how does the coal get put out when nobody is there to keep an eye on it? I use a propane fired Heater Buddy and with a 5' hose I can attach it to a 5gal cylinder which I keep outside the tent I also keep the tent ventilated and the heater has a low oxygen sensor built in. Same way u put a charcoal grill out, take away the ventilation. Most stoves have a flap in tube going out of the tent along with holes in the stow itself that can be closed so oxygen doesn't get to it and they smother out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted September 10, 2012 The thought on all of this was for something a little longer lasting through the night than the hardwood I stoke the stove with. If the coal is a good option (maybe using a 1/4" flat plate of steel under the coal on top of the grate) then I will stoke the stove right at bed time with coal so the fire stays going all night. In the morning there wont be much left and I can either scoop out the coal and put it in the metal ash bucket if alot is left over. During the day, you dont want your fire going, only when you get back in the evening......also, the mr buddy heater doesnt seem to work real well at the altitude of the Kaibab. I have a couple and have alot of 5 gallon propane tanks, but for some reason the last 2 years, mr. buddy is really hard to get started. Also, you dont want to run the propane heater at night when you are sleeping, the risk is too high for problems with using up all the oxygen, carbon monoxide etc..........Allen............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azgutpile Report post Posted September 10, 2012 Can't you control how how fast or hot the coal/ wood burns, by adjusting the air that is allowed to circulate thru the stove? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted September 10, 2012 there is a damper on the front of the stove and a damper on the stove pipe, so yes you can adjust the air flow..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjhunt2 Report post Posted September 10, 2012 When I was kid growing up, in Brilliant, Ohio, that's all we ever had was a coal furnace. I shoveled and hauled many tons of it on my sleigh. It was a great source of heat but very dirty. I never gave it much thought of using coal in a camp stove. I do remember the snow being very dirty looking around the house all the time. Just wondering if the black mess is worth the trade off for the longer hours during the night. Let us know how it works out if you go that route. TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted September 11, 2012 I've been told coal cannot be purchased by the general public in AZ. I've purchased coal in Kanab but that was a long time ago. Coal works great but you must maintain your chimney as it will plug, usually about 3 am. I'd recommend a hot wood fire in your stove at least once or twice a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Wheels Report post Posted September 12, 2012 Allen knowing you I'd suggest you stick to the wood burning and since you have that awesome 19 year old young man coming this year all of us pretty much would agree he is tagged with fire watch or at least that was the way it worked when we were young! Just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites