el diablo Report post Posted September 6, 2012 Look at the map. 6a side of Lake Mary Rd you can for elk only. 5b side of the road not allowed at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcouesfanatic Report post Posted September 7, 2012 Ok this is my understanding. Game and fish is not going to enforce this rule but if you are stopped by the forest service I promise you they will write you a ticket. The reason I say game and fish is not going to enforce the rule is because that is what several unit managers have told me. But understand you are dealing with two different law enforcement agencies both of which have jurisdiction. So just because game and fish decides not to write you a ticket does not mean forest service can't. I think the wood cutting permit is a stellar idea. Hope this helps. For that person who takes the chance and ends up with a ticket remember you were warned. Good luck to everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted September 7, 2012 Unless you are in a wheelchair, you shouldn't be concerned about driving off road. My goodness, if you are able bodied enough to shoot the animal, then you are able bodied enough to quarter it and pack it out! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHUNTER Report post Posted September 10, 2012 On the Motor Vehicle Use Map (Coconino National Forest) it states on bottom left : When an elk has been legally taken in Game Management Units 6A, 6B, 7E, 7W, and 8 the individual who legally took the animal may drive or be driven to the down elk. Now at the end of pharagragh it also states: Motor vehicle use off of designated roads is not allowed for game retrieval of any species, including elk, in game management units 5A. 5B, 5BN and 11. I will be in unit 11M so im not allowed to drive down some roads, trails which is fine, my wife and i have bikes and a bike trailer which is how we have done our scouting and if we do down our elks the bike trailer will also aid us in retrieving them. I just hope we dont pedal our A$$es off just to have another hunter pass by on a atv/utv and beat us to our spots 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azcoues Report post Posted September 10, 2012 thats funny Ahunter,you will get your workout peddaling b4 you even get too your spot to start hiking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHUNTER Report post Posted September 11, 2012 thats funny Ahunter,you will get your workout peddaling b4 you even get too your spot to start hiking. Well, we will drive our ranger to area we are allowed to drive on, then ride bikes the last two miles before we walk into our honey hole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jnobleinaz Report post Posted September 11, 2012 The rules for the wood cutting permit state no scouting for wood New in 2012 The Travel Management Rule is in effect on the Coconino. Unless specified elsewhere on the permit or identified as prohibited, motorized off road travel is authorized to access and load firewood. The permit does not authorize motorized cross country travel to scout for wood. The permit authorizes off-road vehicular use by the most direct route in and out of the area to accomplish firewood retrieval. Off-road travel is not permitted to "scout" for wood. Please use a MVUM in conjunction with your firewood guide. Roads not identified as “open” roads on the MVUM are not considered "roads" in the provision. Using these "roads" would be considered the same as “cross country travel” and should only be used to access and load firewood that has been previously located and cut without using your Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted September 11, 2012 We that pretty much sums it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffhunter Report post Posted September 11, 2012 The rules for the wood cutting permit state no scouting for wood New in 2012 The Travel Management Rule is in effect on the Coconino. Unless specified elsewhere on the permit or identified as prohibited, motorized off road travel is authorized to access and load firewood. The permit does not authorize motorized cross country travel to scout for wood. The permit authorizes off-road vehicular use by the most direct route in and out of the area to accomplish firewood retrieval. Off-road travel is not permitted to "scout" for wood. Please use a MVUM in conjunction with your firewood guide. Roads not identified as “open” roads on the MVUM are not considered "roads" in the provision. Using these "roads" would be considered the same as “cross country travel” and should only be used to access and load firewood that has been previously located and cut without using your Like i said get a permit keep a saw in your truck and go cut some wood and get your elk on the way out!!!!!! Perfectly legal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
