Arizona Bait Ban - AZGF wants "Bait" ban

[bowsniper]

This weekend at the commisioner meeting, AZGF will propose to ban the use of salt and other comsumables when taking game. Here is the agenda item:

5.0 Rulemaking Recommendations for Article 3 Taking and Handling of Wildlife. Presenter: Dana McGehee, FOR6 Wildlife Manager. The Department will present rulemaking recommendations for Article 3 rules, regarding the taking and handling of wildlife. This presentation is for information only and no action will be taken by the Commission.

link: http://www.azgfd.gov/inside_azgfd/documents/2012.08.3-4%20AgendaRev1.pdf

This came up a few years ago, and many members of CWT.com helped in making the issue go away. The main arguement we used was the rule was too vague, as it could apply to salt, water, ranchers, etc.

This time, G&F are much smarter and cleaned up the new rule, making special provisions for ranchers to be able to use salt and "food supplements". That's all I know until the proposal comes out publicly this weekend.

Even if you don't use salt or "food supplements" in your hunting, or think "that's not hunting", this could eventually effect you. Game cameras, high powered optics, large calibers, laser range finders, etc. I'm sure that most hunters use something that other hunters consider "that's not hunting!"

Hunters need to stick together, "united we stand, divided we fall".

[reganranch]

Why the Hel would they do that? Sounds like a bunch of Commies running the Azgfd.

[azstroops]

You let them take one thing away, they wil start on the next thing and eventually we will loose all our rights. Thanks Bowsniper

[AverageJoe]

Without jumping to conclusions it would be nice to hear game and fish's side and why they are considering this.

[azpackhorse]

knock yourselves out....

 

The next Arizona Game and Fish Commission meeting will be held this Friday and Saturday, Aug. 3 and 4, at the Game and Fish Department headquarters at 5000 W. Carefree Highway in Phoenix (1.5 miles west of I-17). The meeting begins at 8 a.m. both days.

Items on the Friday, Aug. 3 portion of the agenda include:

• Discussion of commission policy regarding the development of the commission meeting agenda.
  
• Briefings on state and federal legislative issues and shooting sports, information/education, wildlife recreation, nongame, lands/habitat, law enforcement, and Scholastic Clay Target Program activities.
  
• Briefing on a memorandum of understanding with the Bureau of Land Management to allow the department to be a cooperating agency in the development of the Sonoran Valley Parkway Project Environmental Impact Statement.
  
• Consideration of a memorandum of understanding with Coconino County to cooperatively manage land and wildlife resources at Rogers Lake Natural Area.
  
• Briefing on an agreement with Tri-State Shooting Park, Inc., for the operation of a commission-owned shooting facility in Mohave County.
  
• Update on the department’s strategic planning process.
  
• Hearings on license revocations for violations of Game and Fish codes and civil assessments for the illegal taking and/or possession of wildlife (time certain at 2 p.m.).
  
• Request for approval of budget fund requests for fiscal years 2014 and 2015.
  

Items on the Saturday, Aug. 4 portion of the agenda include:

• Consideration of proposed Commission Orders 21 (waterfowl) and 22 (snipe), establishing seasons and season dates, bag and possession limits, and open areas for the 2012-13 hunting season.
  
• Consideration of proposed Commission Orders 5, 6, 8 and 9 (spring turkey, spring javelina, spring buffalo, and spring bear) establishing seasons and season dates, bag and possession limits, permit numbers, and open areas for spring 2013.
  
• Consideration of the proposed hunt permit-tag application schedule for spring 2013 hunts.
  
• Briefing on the recently completed 2012 fall draw.
  
• Update on department activities and events related to news releases and outreach that have occurred since the last regular commission meeting in June.
  
• Update and overview of The Peregrine Fund partnership with the department and other cooperators regarding the voluntary non-lead program in Arizona.
  
• Presentation on rulemaking recommendations for Article 3 rules, regarding the taking and handling of wildlife. This item is for information only and no action on this item will be taken by the commission.
  

The public can view the meeting either by: (1) attending in person in Phoenix; (2) via live streaming video at Game and Fish regional offices; or, (3) online at www.azgfd.gov/commissioncam. Members of the public may submit Speaker Cards (Blue Cards) if they wish to speak to the commission at the Phoenix meeting or from any regional Game and Fish office. Public comment is not available for those viewing the webcast online.

To see a copy of the revised meeting agenda, visit www.azgfd.gov/commission and click on the “commission agenda” link.

The Arizona Game and Fish Commission is the policy-setting board overseeing the Arizona Game and Fish Department. It is composed of five members (serving staggered five-year terms) appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Senate. No more than one commissioner may be from any one county. No more than three may be from the same political party. Since its inception in 1929, this organizational structure has served as a buffer for the best interests of science-driven wildlife conservation during eight decades of back-and-forth political change.

For more information on the commission, visit www.azgfd.gov/commission.

[123456]

I am interested in what game and fish's stance and reasoning behind this new law. I could think of a few of their arguments they can make, but I can also think of some us hunters can argue. I am going to assume that a few bad apples are going to ruin it for all of us. (if we let them.)

[reganranch]

It's been proven through every government law that puts sanctions on its citizens, that the next one is just a little more restrictive and then you wake up one day and all your freedoms are gone.

[rcdinaz]

Aren't we already more restricted than most states?

 

I ask because I am not sure how the western states look but the rest of the country seems to be able to run wild with baiting, feeding, filming, etc.

[devilincatcountry]

High powered optics, trail cameras, what's next? A little more restrictive every year!! Might have to take up golf and forget about hunting, in this state at least..

[huntjunkie]

High powered optics, trail cameras, what's next? A little more restrictive every year!! Might have to take up golf and forget about hunting, in this state at least..

I share the same frustration!!! But that's what they want. If we just give up they have won! I hunt the 4 corner states and as far as I can tell AZ is not the most restrictive.

 

[huntjunkie]

bowsniper is absolutely correct!!

 

Hunters need to stick together, "united we stand, divided we fall".

[AZLance]

The unit 33 WM is already threatening hunters with citations for putting salt licks out...

[huntjunkie]

How much is the citation? What is the 2nd offense?

[AZLance]

How much is the citation? What is the 2nd offense?

 

There is none, because there is no law against it, but the threats and intimidation are enough to get most to quit...

[123456]

intimdation by WM's should be reported to AZGFD and they claim they will investigate and take action. If there is no law being broken, they can not say shitake mushrooms.