huntjunkie Report post Posted July 28, 2012 I'd buy some - and I'm a computer geek. As for getting LE involved, probably not going to go very far, but if you had pix of the thieves, just imagine having your face plastered all over the internet caught red-handed trying to steal from a fellow hunter. Having to deal with police and courts is one thing, but having the reputation as a camera thief - that's almost as bad as being a cattle rustler. Most of us are in small towns and word spread quickly. Something like that can and should stick with a guy for a long time. I'm all for "frontier justice". Hang em High frontier man see what that gets ya! Yea its kinda strange LE,FS,BLM and AZGFD hide behind the law when it comes to removing our gear from the field and not one of the CS gmen has the aingst to discuss it on here! That LEO was on the other topic about hunting with the aid of vehicles and was infomative but it is a relatively safe topic for them..... Take note none of the LEO,or other Gmen will make comment per unwritten verbal directives avoiding this red herring! F'n cowards !!!!!! Yep! The "law" now days protects everyone but the victim! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Getting way to involved for me. I've heard of cams being jacked for a while, had mine out for a good 10 years before my first was stolen. Ever since then had 2 more jacked. I think it's all about ethics and these kids dads not woopin enough butt and teaching them the right way. I know it dosnt matter what age the person is cause I have 30 to 50 or 60 year old people messing with the cams now a days. If you get the guys license plate and picture of his face nothing will happen unless he admits to it. Just the way it is works. That guy can say, yah I was there and left after checking out that spot. Someone else came right after me and stole that cam. To hard to prove and won't hold up in court Video will be all the proof I need, trail cams do that sort of thing. As for the question of finding an officer who will actually charge the scum, well I have that one covered too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE RIFLEMAN Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Getting way to involved for me. I've heard of cams being jacked for a while, had mine out for a good 10 years before my first was stolen. Ever since then had 2 more jacked. I think it's all about ethics and these kids dads not woopin enough butt and teaching them the right way. I know it dosnt matter what age the person is cause I have 30 to 50 or 60 year old people messing with the cams now a days. If you get the guys license plate and picture of his face nothing will happen unless he admits to it. Just the way it is works. That guy can say, yah I was there and left after checking out that spot. Someone else came right after me and stole that cam. To hard to prove and won't hold up in court Video will be all the proof I need, trail cams do that sort of thing. As for the question of finding an officer who will actually charge the scum, well I have that one covered too. Usually cops take reports ,write tickets and make arrests based on evidence ... A complaint would be filled out by you the victim and this is the process that would bring charges to a person that you write the complaint against. So you are the one bringing "charges":.... Yes the state can and does "pick up" cases and file their own charges but it would be highly unlikely the state would get involved prosecuting something like this unless it involved other more serious charges! The burden of proof woulod be completly on you to prove the loss , the value, ownership and all the other details like the exact location where the crime occured , the exact time, who put the camera there , pictures of the site before and after the alledged theft ect the trail of evidence has to be bullet proof sorry to say video and pics of some guy picking up a camera is not enough yes they are great to have but not enough to win a case like this .... Don't get me wrong I would love to see you prosecute the person who removed your camera from where you left it out on public land unguarded for extended periods of time! Yea what i am saying here probably P'S you off ..... Bottom line is it'a public land it's no different than if you mounted your trail cam on a tree in a park in downtown pheonix and came back two weeks later to find it "missing".......Now go find a cop who will thow the "theif" in jail... You may be the one who gets arrested for placing suspicious devices in a public place! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted July 28, 2012 u gotta remember not all LEO or GW take your cameras and the one who was on the other thread regarding the aid of vehicles is definitely NOT one of them. now if u bolt directly into a tree that's a different story. that is clearly not supposed to be done. has anyone here ever had one taken by F'S, LEO, or GW? Ive seen a pic of one of them peeing (maybe on a salt block) . I think the majority of the THIEVES are either fellow hunters , campers, or tree huggers. just my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Getting way to involved for me. I've heard of cams being jacked for a while, had mine out for a good 10 years before my first was stolen. Ever since then had 2 more jacked. I think it's all about ethics and these kids dads not woopin enough butt and teaching them the right way. I know it dosnt matter what age the person is cause I have 30 to 50 or 60 year old people messing with the cams now a days. If you get the guys license plate and picture of his face nothing will happen unless he admits to it. Just the way it is works. That guy can say, yah I was there and left after checking out that spot. Someone else came right after me and stole that cam. To hard to prove and won't hold up in court We will see............. Video will be all the proof I need, trail cams do that sort of thing. As for the question of finding an officer who will actually charge the scum, well I have that one covered too. Usually cops take reports ,write tickets and make arrests based on evidence ... A complaint would be filled out by you the victim and this is the process that would bring charges to a person that you write the complaint against. So you are the one bringing "charges":.... Yes the state can and does "pick up" cases and file their own charges but it would be highly unlikely the state would get involved prosecuting something like this unless it involved other more serious charges! The burden of proof woulod be completly on you to prove the loss , the value, ownership and all the other details like the exact location where the crime occured , the exact time, who put the camera there , pictures of the site before and after the alledged theft ect the trail of evidence has to be bullet proof sorry to say video and pics of some guy picking up a camera is not enough yes they are great to have but not enough to win a case like this .... Don't get me wrong I would love to see you prosecute the person who removed your camera from where you left it out on public land unguarded for extended periods of time! Yea what i am saying here probably P'S you off ..... Bottom line is it'a public land it's no different than if you mounted your trail cam on a tree in a park in downtown pheonix and came back two weeks later to find it "missing".......Now go find a cop who will thow the "theif" in jail... You may be the one who gets arrested for placing suspicious devices in a public place! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntlines Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Irregardless to the fact I win or loose the theft charges, I will be overjoyed to just plaster their faces all over every hunting forum I can find. Don't bother to reply about law suits for defamation or any other stupid civil crap. I can post anonymously from any number of public computers. I'm sick of this crap and if more of us start doing this I believe this will slow the theft down.......... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotcoues Report post Posted July 28, 2012 I can't wait to see some solid thievery pics!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willyhunts2 Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Exactly they are never shown cause there arnt to many people that have proof. If you do then I'm all for nailing the bastards that stole your cam. I just think it will be a long drawn out deal just like it is with any court. I use cheap cams so by the time I set up another cam to catch someone then take them to court I would be losing money taking off work for court dates. If you can prove it and show up to court more power to yah. Nail the bastard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Willyhunts2 Report post Posted July 28, 2012 I'm with you huntlines. I'm sick of my stuff being jacked to. Theives are the lowest scum on earth and would love to catch one messing with my stuff. Fact is there are people that say if you put it in the woods it's fair game and that all comes down to ethics. Most people are honest and are ethical but there's a percentage that arnt. Those dishonest people ruin it for everyone. I used to put up cams and not even think about it being gone, mow every time I walk up to it it's a relief it's still there. Shouldn't be that way but it is what it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesBuckhunter Report post Posted July 28, 2012 That's a shame. A buddy of mine had a group of girls try to take his camera. They werent able to take it but they took his stand. He had pics of their faces, their quad(w/ licence) and not only that, another buddy was in the area at the same time and witnessed them driving out from his stand. Justice was sought but the game and fish said they could do nothing about it. They basically said oh well, better luck next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE RIFLEMAN Report post Posted July 28, 2012 That's a shame. A buddy of mine had a group of girls try to take his camera. They werent able to take it but they took his stand. He had pics of their faces, their quad(w/ licence) and not only that, another buddy was in the area at the same time and witnessed them driving out from his stand. Justice was sought but the game and fish said they could do nothing about it. They basically said oh well, better luck next time. Junior g girls doing extra credit projects for their F&G sponsor! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Booby traps would solve the problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntjunkie Report post Posted July 28, 2012 Getting way to involved for me. I've heard of cams being jacked for a while, had mine out for a good 10 years before my first was stolen. Ever since then had 2 more jacked. I think it's all about ethics and these kids dads not woopin enough butt and teaching them the right way. I know it dosnt matter what age the person is cause I have 30 to 50 or 60 year old people messing with the cams now a days. If you get the guys license plate and picture of his face nothing will happen unless he admits to it. Just the way it is works. That guy can say, yah I was there and left after checking out that spot. Someone else came right after me and stole that cam. To hard to prove and won't hold up in court Video will be all the proof I need, trail cams do that sort of thing. As for the question of finding an officer who will actually charge the scum, well I have that one covered too. Usually cops take reports ,write tickets and make arrests based on evidence ... A complaint would be filled out by you the victim and this is the process that would bring charges to a person that you write the complaint against. So you are the one bringing "charges":.... Yes the state can and does "pick up" cases and file their own charges but it would be highly unlikely the state would get involved prosecuting something like this unless it involved other more serious charges! The burden of proof woulod be completly on you to prove the loss , the value, ownership and all the other details like the exact location where the crime occured , the exact time, who put the camera there , pictures of the site before and after the alledged theft ect the trail of evidence has to be bullet proof sorry to say video and pics of some guy picking up a camera is not enough yes they are great to have but not enough to win a case like this .... Don't get me wrong I would love to see you prosecute the person who removed your camera from where you left it out on public land unguarded for extended periods of time! Yea what i am saying here probably P'S you off ..... Bottom line is it'a public land it's no different than if you mounted your trail cam on a tree in a park in downtown pheonix and came back two weeks later to find it "missing".......Now go find a cop who will thow the "theif" in jail... You may be the one who gets arrested for placing suspicious devices in a public place! Go run out the door of sportsmans with a trail camera in hand! Hummm...., the cops would have your a$$!!! They would loose the same amount of $ as everbody else loosing a camera. But suddenly its a CRIME!! It's BS! Stealing is stealing! Period! Public or private NO difference...Hang em at high noon! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted July 28, 2012 A camo trail cam 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE RIFLEMAN Report post Posted July 29, 2012 Getting way to involved for me. I've heard of cams being jacked for a while, had mine out for a good 10 years before my first was stolen. Ever since then had 2 more jacked. I think it's all about ethics and these kids dads not woopin enough butt and teaching them the right way. I know it dosnt matter what age the person is cause I have 30 to 50 or 60 year old people messing with the cams now a days. If you get the guys license plate and picture of his face nothing will happen unless he admits to it. Just the way it is works. That guy can say, yah I was there and left after checking out that spot. Someone else came right after me and stole that cam. To hard to prove and won't hold up in court Video will be all the proof I need, trail cams do that sort of thing. As for the question of finding an officer who will actually charge the scum, well I have that one covered too. Usually cops take reports ,write tickets and make arrests based on evidence ... A complaint would be filled out by you the victim and this is the process that would bring charges to a person that you write the complaint against. So you are the one bringing "charges":.... Yes the state can and does "pick up" cases and file their own charges but it would be highly unlikely the state would get involved prosecuting something like this unless it involved other more serious charges! The burden of proof woulod be completly on you to prove the loss , the value, ownership and all the other details like the exact location where the crime occured , the exact time, who put the camera there , pictures of the site before and after the alledged theft ect the trail of evidence has to be bullet proof sorry to say video and pics of some guy picking up a camera is not enough yes they are great to have but not enough to win a case like this .... Don't get me wrong I would love to see you prosecute the person who removed your camera from where you left it out on public land unguarded for extended periods of time! Yea what i am saying here probably P'S you off ..... Bottom line is it'a public land it's no different than if you mounted your trail cam on a tree in a park in downtown pheonix and came back two weeks later to find it "missing".......Now go find a cop who will thow the "theif" in jail... You may be the one who gets arrested for placing suspicious devices in a public place! Go run out the door of sportsmans with a trail camera in hand! Hummm...., the cops would have your a$$!!! They would loose the same amount of $ as everbody else loosing a camera. But suddenly its a CRIME!! It's BS! Stealing is stealing! Period! Public or private NO difference...Hang em at high noon! If its such a serious offense to you than just waste the guy when/if you find out who he is! Why mess around with posting his mug , harsh language and all the minor crap just kill the thief and be satisfied and shut up so you don't get caught! Or better yet take a hero picture of him with a huge head wound , eye ball dangling , blood dripping and post it on here anonymously of course! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites