azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I know a group of guys that have drawn December tags the last 7 years out of 8. Would you consider that "luck of the draw?" I think something's haywire there, I could see maybe 4 of those years being extremely lucky but 7? I'm glad for those guys but come on! That is ridiculous! How can this be? Any thoughts? Do you know anyone with such a record? Oh ya, forgot to mention that he also drew a rifle Antelope tag in 10, Archery Bull in unit 1, and now a December Coues tag.............whaaat? And they ALWAYS draw Spring Turkey tags in 27..........I want to hate them but perhaps I should put in with them????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Forgot to mention that I ALWAYS put December hunts for my first 3 choices and in the past 12 years I have drawn...................................1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I feel your pain. Years back I met a guy who hadn't drawn a December coues tag in something like 10 years. He about killed me when I told him I had drawn my unit 4 of 5 years in December. There were a lot more tags in there back then but it was still only supposed to be around a 16% draw rate for that unit. I used to know a family that it seemed every year drew archery bull and always speculated something fishy was going on, but I don't believe that is the case anymore. No doubt some people draw more often than others, and I have to count myself as one of the really lucky ones over the years but I really believe it is just that - luck (unless I have some super-secret friend in G&F I don't know about ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Millhouse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Do you think part of it may have to do with the units they are putting in for? Still pretty lucky! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stroke Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I never drawn a December tag. I've put in every year since 2000. I've applied for bonus points when I was deployed, hopefully bettering my chances when I came home for the following year. I thinks its just luck of the draw. I heard of a guy who drew a sheep tag, and was unsuccessful the first time he hunted. He applied for sheep the following year and drew another sheep tag. So I thinks its just how the draw goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE RIFLEMAN Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I know a group of guys that have drawn December tags the last 7 years out of 8. Would you consider that "luck of the draw?" I think something's haywire there, I could see maybe 4 of those years being extremely lucky but 7? I'm glad for those guys but come on! That is ridiculous! How can this be? Any thoughts? Do you know anyone with such a record? Oh ya, forgot to mention that he also drew a rifle Antelope tag in 10, Archery Bull in unit 1, and now a December Coues tag.............whaaat? And they ALWAYS draw Spring Turkey tags in 27..........I want to hate them but perhaps I should put in with them????? Atribute this kind of luck to clean living! Dont even consider any other possibilties! The Az big game draw system is beyond reproach and uncoruptable! Come on man you know its jus clean living! Ignore the man behind the curtain HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I know a group of guys that have drawn December tags the last 7 years out of 8. Would you consider that "luck of the draw?" I think something's haywire there, I could see maybe 4 of those years being extremely lucky but 7? I'm glad for those guys but come on! That is ridiculous! How can this be? Any thoughts? Do you know anyone with such a record? Oh ya, forgot to mention that he also drew a rifle Antelope tag in 10, Archery Bull in unit 1, and now a December Coues tag.............whaaat? And they ALWAYS draw Spring Turkey tags in 27..........I want to hate them but perhaps I should put in with them????? Atribute this kind of luck to clean living! Dont even consider any other possibilties! The Az big game draw system is beyond reproach and uncoruptable! Come on man you know its jus clean living! Ignore the man behind the curtain HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!! If you knew them you would know that this is not the case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Do you think part of it may have to do with the units they are putting in for? Still pretty lucky! they are the same units that I put in for and the odds are low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I am in the same boat! No elk, no antelope, no late deer hunts ever. Now I will tell you I did draw a Sheep tag so I may have used all my luck all at once and never get drawn for anything meanignful again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Their "ringleader" is a member on here so let's see if he gets on here and defends his "luck" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowfishAZ Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I hope they play the POWERBALL!!! Thats some crazy good luck!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Wow that is ridiclious! 7 out of 8 years?! That has to be some sort of modern record! I had a buddy when I was up at NAU that him, his dad, and brother drew early archery bull tags something like 5 years in a row? Of course, out of all of those years I think they killed one, maybe two bulls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpackhorse Report post Posted July 26, 2012 now I'm not saying that there is any fishy going on but could it be a computer clich or something? something that triggers their number to come up in the draw? I'm not sure how it works as far as picking permits in the draw process but something aint right, that's too many times for luck and we need to fix it so someone else gets a chance sorry buddy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elkhunter Report post Posted July 26, 2012 A coworker of mine drew dec tags 8 yrs in a row between 2 units, seems like each year he would draw different units for his dec tag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZbowhntr Report post Posted July 26, 2012 I know families that draw great tags every year. The thing they don't say is that they all put in separately and someone gets lucky and draws. That way they get to hunt every year. Not all of them but they get to all go as a family. That could be the case in this situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites