123456 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 So I heard that one of the wildlife managers has been and will continue to write tickets for using a vehicle in the aid of take of animals if: A hunter spots something that is a far distance away and sees a road that will cut his hike from 4-5 miles to only 1 miles. He then gets in his vehicle and drives to that road and then hikes after his game. IMO this is crap and just wanted to know what you all think? This is happening in prime antelope country and as all of you know, Antelope can be spotted from great distances away. I think this is a huge contradiction of their pack out all of your meat as well. The Archery Antelope hunts can and usually are in the 90* temperature range. If you hike 5 miles and then kill, you then have to hike back 5 miles and that pretty much spells a spoiled goat. Whats your thoughts? and if there are any Wildlife managers on here, please chime in if I heard wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted July 20, 2012 It will Never hold up in court! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ready2hunt Report post Posted July 20, 2012 its a politicians way of pleasing a group that will support re-election and appearing that they have done some "good". what a load of BS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Hey 1-6, I've never had the pleasure of hunting antelope, but you make a super valid point. I really can't throw out a 100% knowledgable opinion because I don't hunt north of I-10 to often and down south is a different ball game all together. It seems even if you had a hunting partner with you and he tried to cover a significant distance back to the truck to retrieve an ice chest in 90 degree weather that meat will be medium rare in no time. If its a graded road/ or offroad trail in any condition and it's not closed by any means of keeping an indivdual out and you don't create a wildcat road there shouldn't be an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azoutlaw Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Pretty hard to enforce if not impossible. I wouldn't worry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birddogg21 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 I just keep a white-tipped cane in the truck with me so whenever I see the law I can jump out and play blind! If they don't get the hint I'm pretty good at playin deaf also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted July 20, 2012 I just keep a white-tipped cane in the truck with me so whenever I see the law I can jump out and play blind! If they don't get the hint I'm pretty good at playin deaf also Hahaha this is the funniest thing i've read in a while! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted July 20, 2012 4b wildlife manager????? Just curious. Call game and fish and report him if you know who it is. They do not want crappy wm's so they say. Supposedly the guys in the office are pretty oblivious to the guys in the field. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
COUESAZ Report post Posted July 20, 2012 It held up against us ont the Navajo a few years ago. But then again they are there own nation ( kind of) but I would hope it would not hold up in our Nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted July 20, 2012 we had this discussion in Archery deer if I recall.... I may be wrong but I thought a G&F agent chimed in and said he would not give a ticket for this???? I'll have to see if I can find the post. James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted July 20, 2012 here it is http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29141&hl=%2Broad+%2Bhunting James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreeneMachine Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Yeah, that would never hold up in court. How would they be able to prove you actually spotted the animal from 5 miles back prior to jumping in your car to get closer? Beyond that, it doesn't even make sense. The situation you described could often lead to a more ethical and/or safer shot. If you can drive to a safer location to take or approach the shot, and you're not shooting from the car or road, then go for it. I don't think you have anything to worry about. It'd be some what amusing to have a warden try to pull that crap on me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo Report post Posted July 20, 2012 2 years ago my wife had a limited op cow elk hunt up in 3a/4b. In the letter she got from g & f it specifically addressed that issue and said it WAS a violation to do just that. It took me by suprise as well as I never thought of it that way. I always assumed it would be ok. If you really think about it you are spotting the game and then getting in your vehicle to get closer. Is that not using the vehicle as an aid? I bet it would hold up in court. Not that I agree with it at all but I would be curious to know. A while back someone on here posted thier story of thier kill and it had said that they had done just that to get closer to a deer for his daughter. Since we all know g & f monitors sights as this one I was curios to see if anything would come of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkaddict Report post Posted July 20, 2012 I have second hand knowledge of someone that got a ticket during a javelina hunt. I know second hand knowledge doesn't count for much but it does come from a reliable source. The guy glassed some pics quite a ways off and drove to a location that he could hike over and shoot a pig. Seems a G & F guy saw this and ticketed him for "using a vehicle to take wildlife". Instead of telling his wife he got a ticket he paid it instead of going to court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twigsnapper Report post Posted July 20, 2012 A decent attorney could tear this apart. If I drive from my house or my camp to the hunting spot am I using a vehicle in the aid of taking wildlife? I certainly didn't walk from my house or camp and start hunting. We should give them tickets for using a vehicle to aid in the protection of wildlife. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
