firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Use the gift cards that will take a lot of the sting off of the sticker shock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Sniper Report post Posted July 18, 2012 Buy the Leica. You will not regret it. I think I left mine on the hill last December and I've hated myself since! Can't possibly be the only reason... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturegirl Report post Posted July 18, 2012 as a wife I wouldn't have liked it but now that I hunt, I'd rather spend the money if i can or save up and buy once. upgrading x2 stinks. we both finally have Swaro binos. what a difference!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted July 19, 2012 So the 1600's do or do not show the compensated difference??? Yeah ... I have $375 to Bass Pro and $300 to Cabelas ... ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH ... wish they were both to the same place!!!!!!!!! So here is the other wrinkle ... I'm thinking of buying new 10X binos too ... and a couple of new Scopes ... my wife is going to kill me ....................................................she's not a hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reganranch Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Buy Once Cry Once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Oh yeah ... thanks for the offer Big Brown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 19, 2012 You have a longer shopping list than you have gift cards If you are upgrading optics I still say buy the one thing you want most pay even if it hurts but get new tools you will be happy with forever. I made my first Swaro purchase +10 years ago for a pair of 10x42's for ~$700 and thought I might need psychiatric help. I could sell them for more than I paid for them after I get them back from being serviced. My point is optics are the one thing we use in hunting that have not gotten cheaper in the last decade and if you buy top of the line they will hold their value, middle & low end will be worth half of what you pay when you get home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted July 19, 2012 "So the 1600's do or do not show the compensated difference???" Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. I know the "B" model gives you the hold-over at various ranges. Here's a hypothetical question. If you could get the Vortex Ranger 1000 for around $320, and it's a big improvement over what you've been using for years, would you still opt for the Leica? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcdinaz Report post Posted July 19, 2012 They both have angle compensation, temp, and baro readings. The new version for the U.S. market "B" will now give adjustments based on MOA if you program it to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted July 19, 2012 You have a longer shopping list than you have gift cards Ain't that the truth. Big year for purchases. Scopes may wait depending if I get drawn or not. May end up swapping mine over onto my boys rifles for their Bull Elk hunts. They have cheap scopes and I was thinking to upgrade them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted July 19, 2012 I had the leica crf 1600. I Sold it and am buying the vortex. The vortex does what i want it to. The leica did not. The glass on the vortex is very good for a rangefinder. Not as good as the leica glass but nothing is. The vortex glass and readout is right up there with swaro and leica and better than leuPold or bushnell. I would definitely recommend the vortex over the leica for archery or normal hunting situations. If you are into long range the leica will have the edge. The price difference is not really worth it. Compare them for yourself and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AverageJoe Report post Posted July 19, 2012 And also you should take a look at the warranty side of the rangefinder. Vortex covers the entire rangefinder forever if something should go wrong or even if you drop it and it breaks. Leica warranty on rangefinders leaves something to be desired. And in case you forget it on a hill and its gone forever, you are only out 379 instead of 649-799 (been there). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azgutpile Report post Posted July 19, 2012 Coach, the standard 1600 will tell you the range and the angle, which is all I use for rifle shooting. It will compensate for the angle, but you have to choose one of their preexisting ballistic curves. It's probably not the best rangefinder for archery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted July 20, 2012 The last few posts have made up my mind - thanks guys. I'm going to go with the Vortex. I think it will do everything I need it to and the price is right. Plus, the warranty and customer service by Vortex is absolutely top-notch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted July 20, 2012 Keep in mind, Darr Colburn did a review of the Vortex and he said it left something to be desired. The Leica will work every time, no problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites