pollohombre Report post Posted June 21, 2006 Anyone know anything about this? I drove up form Phoenix today and there is a solid haze from the Kaibab to Page. A friend of mine in Page said the east side is burning and the roads are closed going into the Kaibab. It must be bad the visibility in Page is about 1/2 mile. Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted June 21, 2006 NAVAJO MOUNTAIN #1 (3,350 A., 65% contained) is in Utah just north of the Arizona line 35 miles WNW of Page. Navajo Mountain remains closed to the public. Crews are monitoring the W flank, which is unlined due to inaccessible terrain. Dan Oltrogge's Southwest Area Type 1 Incident Management Team will transfer command of the fire back to Navajo Nation this evening. Resources assigned: 1 Type 1 crew, 3 Type 2 crews, 5 helicopters, 4 engines, 11 water tenders, 180 overhead, 3 camp crews, 341 total personnel. http://inciweb.org/incident/248/ WEST WILDLAND FIRE USE (1,925 acres) is burning in Kaibab National Forest about 8 miles SE of Tusayan. Minimal spread is anticipated. WEST has reached the maximum established parameters set for its growth and shows little potential to increase in size. Crews will continue monitoring. For more information, call Jackie Denk at (928)-635-5607. http://gacc.nifc.gov/swcc/information/azfi...information.htm This is the info from the website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted June 21, 2006 Probably this fire just south of Jacob Lake: Warm (Kaibab National Forest): 5,400 acres. This fire is three miles south of Jacob Lake. This lightning caused WFU is being managed to accomplish resource objectives. Residences, the Jacob Lake developed area, a historic ranger station, and campgrounds remain threatened. Increased fire behavior with spotting up to 1,000 feet and isolated torching were reported . Information: Visit the Southwest Area Incident Information web site. http://www.nifc.gov/fireinfo/nfn.html I think there was also a fire out by Crazy Jug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollohombre Report post Posted June 21, 2006 Thanks, Red Rabbit. According to my friend alot of prime deer country is going up in smoke! I cannot believe there is nothing on the news about it. Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 it's gonna be a long summer. but one way to look at it is that fire is a good thing in the long run. even in the short run, if we get a little rain soon. fire is nature, just like rain, snow, wind, temperature, etc. it's hard to see and i hate to see folks get burned out, but until the weather cycle changes, we're going to see a lot of it. it ain't the end of the world, just a way that nature fixes itself. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dodger2 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 It is sad to see the loss of some of our forests, but like Lark said in the long run it is a good thing. Nature is amazing and the animals/plants that live here are designed for this stuff. Survival of the fittest I guess. There were storms building south of Douglas last night, so hopefully the monsoon is on its way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted June 21, 2006 Everyone thought the Rodeo Fire was a disaster too, and it was for the people that lost homes and businesses, but I see more elk and deer in there now than ever before. I think that big fire they had on Mt Lemmon was the best thing to happen there too. Not the houses lost, that was terrible, but just for the health of the mountain. There are ALOT of Coues in that burn now. I heard they were letting at least one of the North Kaibab fires burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilimanjaro Report post Posted June 21, 2006 Oh crap Doug, that is our grouse hunting grounds!! And I was planning on doing another trip up there this Sept. Lets hope all those grouse don't high tail it to Utah!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kphunter Report post Posted June 23, 2006 Hope they don't close the part of the forest around Cataract or Kaibab Lakes. My family and I are heading up to the Flagstaff/Williams area next weekend, would like to be able to get some fishing in. KP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted June 28, 2006 The fire was about 50,000 acres this morning and has consumed almost half of the east side nearing Kane Canyon. There was the fire near Saddle mountain several years ago and it greened up well in a year. Lotsa new aspens. http://inciweb.org/incident/news/article/262/403/ http://inciweb.org/incident/pictures/full/262/639/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetmule Report post Posted June 28, 2006 The fire on the west side ten years ago consumed alot of Kaibab winter range and was NOT a good fire. The elevation of this fire leads me to believe that this will be a good one and in the long run will be better for the deer herd. Not all fires are good as evidenced by the west side fire, and now we have a huge problem with cheat grass and other non native species taking over and smothering alot of deer food and threatening alot of winter range deer browse. The ADA and finally the G&F dept. have undertaken the monumental task of trying to limit and possibly reverse the detrimental effects of the Bridger Fire. The point is not all fires are good especially if the Forest Service and the G&F Dept. ignore the problem for ten years before they even address it. If you look at the Rodeo Chedisky fire, they (Forest Service & G&F) did alot of work up there to quicky restore the burnt areas and the wildlife and vegetation is reaping the benefits. On the flip side they completely ignored the Bridger Fire and now we have a giant problem in the Kaibab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Kevin, you are right on. If non-native species come back in and the deer dont eat that forage, then the fire may not be a good thing. Hopefully AZGFD has learned from the Bridger situation............Allen....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted June 28, 2006 I got a look at that dude going to & from a trip to Southern Utah last week & weekend. Looked pretty benign last Weds on the way up, but it was RAGING on Monday when we drove back down! I'm wondering when they might get a little of the moisture that some of the other parts of the state have been getting (however little....). It should be good on top, but at 60,000 acres +, I'm thinking enough has burned. S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollohombre Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Alot of people think this fire is good, I don't. When a resource is managed like the Kaibab is why don't they use the man power to burn excess undergrowth and young trees? This would have been managable on 6/8 when it started. Now there are 750 people and lots of money being spent on a raging blaze. The old growth is gone and won't be back in our lifetime. I don't get it. We are paying either way. Wasted money and resources. G&F will have another excuse why the deer herd is so screwed up on the Kaibab. Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azyoung Report post Posted June 28, 2006 Natural lighting caused fire is good but not in an unhealthy forest. A life time of bad management has cost us plenty. The USFS has spent a lot of our tax dollers to screw up the forest and now they spend millions to stop catastrophic wild fire that they are to blame for. Az has been in droughts before but with over grown forest and years of fire suppression has change AZ and will take a lomg time to correct. Hoplfully by some organization other than the USFS. azyoung Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
