donniedent Report post Posted April 30, 2012 Well... we can see how fast this topic died. 2 full pages on a forum upgrade. 4 pages on Coconino road rules you can't do anything about now... its too late and 3 pages about steering problems in a Dodge. 1 page and 8 people willing to step up and do something real for wildlife. This is sad. We deserve whatever the heck we get!!! Donnie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savagman Report post Posted April 30, 2012 I pledge - took my mom out to a AES fence removal a couple years back. Hard work but had a great day in the woods helping wildlife. My kids are just getting old enough to help out and stay out of trouble. I enjoy knowing that I am giving back and helping to secure a hunting heritage for my children. With that said we need to analyze why the anti's have been successful. I read a recent survey that said that the overwhelming majority of Americans support hunting. If that is true how do HSUS, PETA and others gain traction? They focus all of their money on public relations and legal. The key word being money. Their supporters simply write a check. They do not build, repair, remove, secure habitat, or physically do anything to help wildlife. They do absolutely nothing with their money to help wildlife. In fact, when they oppose thinning projects they quite possibly interfere with habitat improvement. The reason that this approach has been successful is they have one message and are not fragmented. We argue about ethics, dogs vs. no dogs, bow vs. rifle, bait vs. no bait, opportunity vs. quality, quads vs. no quads, etc. etc. etc. All of this is healthy debate and personal choice and ok as long as we agree on the basics and fight together against anything that erodes our right to hunt. Our approach is better but less known. Volunteer and join local and national groups that help us to fight the public relations and legal battles. Eric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzHuntingAddict Report post Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry, I have been in the hospital for surgery and would have replied sooner. Count me and my two young boys into the challenge. I look forward to being more active this year, and to the upcomming meeting with the AZGF group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donniedent Report post Posted April 30, 2012 Don't you dare apologize if you were in the hospital! I'm glad and happy to see you guys step up! I'm really not a jerk, I swear. I just hate to see such a lack of participation among sportsmen in general, let alone my freinds on this site. Pretty evident, if you already belong and volunteer, there's no need to post here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky2hunt Report post Posted April 30, 2012 Well... we can see how fast this topic died. 2 full pages on a forum upgrade. 4 pages on Coconino road rules you can't do anything about now... its too late and 3 pages about steering problems in a Dodge. 1 page and 8 people willing to step up and do something real for wildlife. This is sad. We deserve whatever the heck we get!!! Donnie Ouch! Kind of harsh! I almost feel like you are 'preaching to the choir'. Yes, there may be a lot of room for improvement, but.... I think many of us on this forum DO get out and do our share of volunteering for wildlife, I know there is always more to do, but I have been to quite a few work projects and I have seen more than one CWT sticker on a vehicle. My husband and I did Adopt-a-Catchment and had a blast with it, a lot of work, but well worth it! Also, I've been to the banquets where CWT'ers also 'put there money where their mouth is' donating a lot to wildlife which helps make the projects possible. I agree with you though, there's plenty to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donniedent Report post Posted May 1, 2012 I absolutely understand I'm preaching to the choir with some and if you look at my last post I adressed that. If you are one that already gives your time and efforts, I truly commend you and you have my utmost respect. The reason I posted this thread was do to the fact that we as hunters have become apathetic and have allowed those like yourself to do the lions share. If we want to truly change things and remove the excuse for legislation like HB2072, then we had better step in a big way or we are going to lose everything you and others have fought so hard to preserve. Donnie Well... we can see how fast this topic died. 2 full pages on a forum upgrade. 4 pages on Coconino road rules you can't do anything about now... its too late and 3 pages about steering problems in a Dodge. 1 page and 8 people willing to step up and do something real for wildlife. This is sad. We deserve whatever the heck we get!!! Donnie Ouch! Kind of harsh! I almost feel like you are 'preaching to the choir'. Yes, there may be a lot of room for improvement, but.... I think many of us on this forum DO get out and do our share of volunteering for wildlife, I know there is always more to do, but I have been to quite a few work projects and I have seen more than one CWT sticker on a vehicle. My husband and I did Adopt-a-Catchment and had a blast with it, a lot of work, but well worth it! Also, I've been to the banquets where CWT'ers also 'put there money where their mouth is' donating a lot to wildlife which helps make the projects possible. I agree with you though, there's plenty to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
