CRAZYBUCK Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Maybe it's the forest service stealing our cameras and not our fellow hunters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1uglydude Report post Posted April 18, 2012 Maybe it's the forest service stealing our cameras and not our fellow hunters BINGO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted April 19, 2012 Maybe it's the forest service stealing our cameras and not our fellow hunters there has been proof of other hunters shall we not forget "Cornbagger" I'm sure the forest service steal their share though! James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunterjohnny Report post Posted April 19, 2012 I still laugh when I hear that name. Its like the Underwear Bomber, you cant help but smile! And they don’t have to steal, its confiscating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted April 22, 2012 Yup know couple people who got busted for baiting on forest service land. As long as you know your laws you should bait away... If you don't , its just plain ignorance. I could care less either way but game and fish have been known to get Leeds off this site for so called "deer baiters" just giving a heads up to a law I just barely found to be true a few years ago. Where specifically can you read up on this type of information?? Still waiting for reference where this type of information can be found. Written, hard copy??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Tub Report post Posted April 22, 2012 Yup know couple people who got busted for baiting on forest service land. As long as you know your laws you should bait away... If you don't , its just plain ignorance. I could care less either way but game and fish have been known to get Leeds off this site for so called "deer baiters" just giving a heads up to a law I just barely found to be true a few years ago. Without citing book, chapter and verse from the regs or code, then it's just pure BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted April 23, 2012 Yup know couple people who got busted for baiting on forest service land. As long as you know your laws you should bait away... If you don't , its just plain ignorance. I could care less either way but game and fish have been known to get Leeds off this site for so called "deer baiters" just giving a heads up to a law I just barely found to be true a few years ago. Without citing book, chapter and verse from the regs or code, then it's just pure BS. http://thinkexist.com/quotation/what_you_do_not_want_done_to_yourself-do_not_do/202162.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhunter81 Report post Posted April 23, 2012 It states it very clearly on the azgf website if you want to bait on f s. Land you have to contact the f.s. and check on their regulations. From what I got its not up to azgf to write forest service rules but its part of their job to enforce their rules, just as they do when problems relating to wildlife exist on private. I wish game in fish would write it clearly if they are willing to enforce it . It's just not so clear as to what the baiting limitations are in azgf rules. They just make it clear that its up to us to contact f.s. or other land managers to check on these rules. Game and fish are just starting to crack down on this due to numerous complaints that the forest service always has against us violating their rules. It realy is up to us as sportsmen to honor and respect these rules. Its up to us to preserve our hunting rights by being ethical and following all the rules and not just some. By abiding by these rules we can reassure our hunting spots on f.s. lands and such by keeping their rules. We as hunters should honor what's right if that's what we stand for even when we dissagree sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted April 23, 2012 It states it very clearly on the azgf website if you want to bait on f s. Land you have to contact the f.s. and check on their regulations. From what I got its not up to azgf to write forest service rules but its part of their job to enforce their rules, just as they do when problems relating to wildlife exist on private. I wish game in fish would write it clearly if they are willing to enforce it . It's just not so clear as to what the baiting limitations are in azgf rules. They just make it clear that its up to us to contact f.s. or other land managers to check on these rules. Game and fish are just starting to crack down on this due to numerous complaints that the forest service always has against us violating their rules. It realy is up to us as sportsmen to honor and respect these rules. Its up to us to preserve our hunting rights by being ethical and following all the rules and not just some. By abiding by these rules we can reassure our hunting spots on f.s. lands and such by keeping their rules. We as hunters should honor what's right if that's what we stand for even when we dissagree sometimes. 81.....can you post that link directly to the AZGF site where you are reading that, I always just get in a fight with their website....thanks..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhunter81 Report post Posted April 23, 2012 Faqs page on web Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted April 23, 2012 OK so here is the G$F version as you correctly stated, thanks for the info on that: http://www.azgfd.gov/faq/Hunting.shtml Can I hunt with an attractant or bait for big game? Yes, except for bear. The Arizona Game and Fish Department does not allow you to use any substance to attract bears. Different federal land agencies, such as the U.S. Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service may have restrictions against the use of salt or other bait as an attractant for wildlife. If hunting these lands, contact those land management agencies to verify the legalities of attractants. Now, where do we read it in the Forest Service laws? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devilincatcountry Report post Posted April 23, 2012 Good ? I've called three different offices, spoken to three different employees and they cant tell me where i can read it for myself. Its kinda just what they say!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted April 23, 2012 Good ? I've called three different offices, spoken to three different employees and they cant tell me where i can read it for myself. Its kinda just what they say!! My inside source who is a Federal Law Enforcement for the FS says he hasn't heard of any such law, but he promised to do some research on the subject for me. I don't like fogginess when it comes to this type of stuff, I want to know where it says..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted April 23, 2012 we went through some of this last year or 2 ago. I think we found there were restrictions in the wilderness areas about feeding the animals. the forest service website specifically says game and fish sets any and all regulations for game animals. I tried searching for the post but cannot remember title or which forum... maybe trail cams. It might have been the gentleman that had a warden tell someone he knew that his camera and salt were set illegally or something to that affect. which seems to be about the time people quit posting a lot of their pics on here! Thanks G$F! James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1uglydude Report post Posted April 23, 2012 Good ? I've called three different offices, spoken to three different employees and they cant tell me where i can read it for myself. Its kinda just what they say!! My inside source who is a Federal Law Enforcement for the FS says he hasn't heard of any such law, but he promised to do some research on the subject for me. I don't like fogginess when it comes to this type of stuff, I want to know where it says..... My guess is that if you run into the right ranger, s/he could fine you using the regulations for littering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites