Commission Appointment Board

[donniedent]

Maybe it should proportional to org size and demographics, there would be four regular joes if that were the case. This idea that just because you are an org for 5 years being a qualifying thing is a joke. This whole process needs to do toward the democratic side. Think how involved the majority could get if someone had to actually get their votes.

[archerycrazy]

Is the commission appointment board a dept rule or a law?

 

Reason I ask is because I think we need to attempt to go back and undo some of the crap AZSFW has done to stay in power.

 

We have a great commission and if this is a rule, we can discuss removing it or rewriteing it.

[archerycrazy]

Law. ARS 17-202.

 

George

[donniedent]

Ahhh. That's a little tougher.

[elkaholic]

its a law they passed - azsfw lobbyed a few yrs back - here agin sure it sounded great but few knew the details and limitations it presented .

[elkaholic]

anything we need to address here ?

 

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/agendas/04050164107%2Edoc%2Ehtm

[archerycrazy]

amything we need to address here ?

 

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/agendas/04050164107%2Edoc%2Ehtm

[archerycrazy]

Darn right there is. We have two days to find out everything we can about Mr. Johnson. We need to contact everyone we can think of to get his resume. Find out what organizations he has been a member of and then contact those organizations. If he has anything to do with AZSFWC or any organization that has not terminated affiliation with AZSFW/AZSFWC he a plant as far as I.m concerned. If anything negative is produced we go to Senator Nelson and Shooter first the the rest on the committee. we also need to find out why a new name is in the mix. Why wasn't our community notified. Sounds like another sneak attack.

 

George

[KGAINES]

George I called you but you might have put wrong number in your post....there was one extra number....send me phone number again

 

Allen I think you would represent us all very well, you have my vote for sure.

[coueshunter]

George, can you find out if this is an open meeting?......how can we find out who this guy is replacing?....basically we need someone who is involved in the political process to give us some direction on this issue. .........what slot is this guy filling?..........can stinson still be approved even though he would be the 3rd azsfw person on the board etc.....can we throw another name in the mix?.........can tony Giles help give direction....

[elkaholic]

don r johnson is already a board member - he may be going to nominate new names for concideration!!

[SpeedGoat]

Anyone that believes the rumors floating around about a certain lobbyist and that the verbage of a certain bill(HB 2072) is dead needs to do a little research into who is seeking appointment and appproval for the Commission Recommendation Board.

There is a gentleman currently serving that is "involved" with said lobbyist. A board member of the AZSWFC seeking confirmation, and all of the sudden a guy from Miami Vice is going in front of the Natural Resources Committee on Thursday that is Pete's best friend to get on the Board. We need a call to action to our State Representatives asking "Why are there going to be THREE individuals from the same organization(AZSFW/AZSFWC)on this Recommendation Board?"

If they can't pass a bill to control the GFD and the Commission they can "recommend" their control of it by controlling who is on the Commission. They got legislation passed us to get this done, let's put a stop to it NOW!

They HAVE NOT lowered their guns. The AZSFW has been working this from EVERY angle and they will succeed unless we stay on top of them.

I am so thankfull for all of the people that have chosen to get involved in this fight, it is the only way we can take them down.

If you have any questions DM me or George.

 

Regards,

DP

[utah400elk]

For what it’s worth…This again is a play taken right out of the Utah SFW play book. In Utah there is a wildlife board that makes recommendations that the game and fish are required to follow. In Utah this board is overrun with SFW cronies. They oddly make recommendations that benefit SFW and the game and fish are required to follow them. This was set up in Utah as a way to protect wildlife decisions. Sounds like what AZ has. Be very careful, this can get twisted out of control in a hurry. Fight anybody associated with AZ SFW being placed on this board.

 

I have heard SFW as being described as a cancer. I think that is very true. I took a few cancer biology classes in my undergrad and I learned that cancer is simply a cell that stops doing what it is meant to do and starts replicating itself. The cells lose their ability to do their intended function. It starts as one cell and quickly grows to entire systems. I think this uniquely describes SFW. It starts with great intentions but quickly spreads to serve itself even at the determent of the hunting community.

[Ringer]

Better write all of the senators on the committee and fill them in on what AZSFW is and what they tried to do. Might work to get a couple of committee members to ask about any know past or present affiliation with AZSFW or it's members. I am sure most of the committee has no idea that they could be involved in manipulation.

[elkaholic]

we tried to bring this to light in JAN.

 

2010: azsfw legislation recommended

 

SB 1200 Game and Fish Commission Appointment Recommendation Board –

 

Passage of SB 1200 over the objections of Arizona Game & Fish Commission (3-2 vote), Sierra Club, Defenders of Wildlife, Arizona Audubon, and Arizona Wildlife Federation to provide certainty that sportsmen have a voice in the future selection of game and fish commissioners

 

HB 2619 Game & Fish Commission Process Bill - Successfully passed bill out of House of Representatives and Senate Natural Resource Committee. President Burns refused to bring the bill to the floor so we are currently working with Governor Brewer’s office to draft an Executive Order to define process including dates, etc.\

 

 

 

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this was G&F responce:

The Arizona Game and Fish Commission today urgently asks the public in joining them in opposition to Senate Bill 1200, proposed legislation creating a new appointment recommendation board that would evaluate and control which candidates for commission vacancies the governor could select.

 

SB 1200 is scheduled to be debated tomorrow and voted on this week in the state senate.

 

The commission asks people to immediately contact their state senator in opposition to SB 1200 and let them know that House Bill 2619 is a much better solution to an open and fair commission appointment process. Contact your senator now by following this link.

 

 

heres bill 2619--

 

 

http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2619h.htm&Session_ID=93

 

The commission expressed concern that SB 1200, if passed by the Arizona Legislature, could threaten the current commission system by granting greater influence to a select group while weakening the public’s voice in wildlife management.

 

“This legislation would lead to, and is intended to lead to, a commission made up entirely of people with similar views, similar backgrounds and similar intentions,” said current commission chair Jennifer Martin from Phoenix. “If this bill passes, and the majority of our stakeholders are disenfranchised and most Arizonans are left out, our broad support base that’s always waiting in the wings to protect the commission system, if necessary, will disintegrate.”

 

 

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In late 2005, governor Napolitano nominated Jennifer Martin to serve on the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. Martin was highly qualified but heavily opposed. At her Senate confirmation hearing a member of the AZSFW raised concerns regarding Ms Martin's status as a single mother and her ability to focus on the job at hand. After the Senate failed to confirm Martin, the door was left open for the Governor to seat her. Ms. Martin served well that first year and there was little opposition when she was confirmed by the Senate.

 

AZSFW went to work crafting HB 2235 which was filed by Rep. Weiers in 2009. I call the bill "The Jennifer Martin Bill". HB 2235 would have made individuals such as Jennifer ineligible and would have made people like Robbie Woodhouse ineligle as well. About 5 days before the bill was scheduled to be heard, the lobbyist for AZSFW came to a Yuma Valley Rod and Gun Club Board meeting and requested our endorsemant. The YVRGC Board of Disrectors voted unanimously to oppose the bill.

 

Representative Weiers pulled the bill the night before the scheduled hearing.

 

Representaive Weiers and AZSFW went back to the drawing board. SB 1200 appeared on our door step days before the first hearing. Unfortunately we supported the revised edition. A bit of a amistake on our part.

 

Prior to SB 1200 and the Commission Appointment Recommendating Board, prospective Commisioner were encouraged to contact most organitation and present their resumes and seek endorsement. Woodhouse and Freeman and all who preceeded them went through this process.

 

In my opinion AZSFW has effectively silenced the voice of the average sportsman.

 

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This removes the 'people' from another government process, not allowing us even the pretense of a voice to the Governor on who's appointed. Our only recourse in the past was our vote for governor to shape the G&F commission, that was restrictive already... example Nappy's appointees and then Brewer... we now have no say as the choice is dependent on special interest nonprofit orgs... socialism, no matter how you dress it.

 

 

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heres what it used to be and what we still need - not a select group saying who we need torepresent us

 

Dear Game and Fish Commission Applicant,

 

Thank you for submitting your application in consideration of

appointment to the Commission.

 

There are a number of organizations that are very interested in this

appointment and we suggest you contact them to discuss your interest in

the Commission. A partial list of these organizations includes The Yuma

Rod and Gun Club, Arizona League of Conservation Voters, Southern

Arizona Sportsman Alliance, Sierra Club Grand Canyon Chapter, Wildlife

Conservation Council, Trout Unlimited and the Arizona Wildlife

Federation. [Please note that this list is representative of groups

that are interested in this appointment and is not by any means intended

to reflect all of the groups. You may wish to contact others as well).

 

 

 

we need to remove this bill - we need to find a way to get rid of bill 1200

 

its been taken over by one group- same thing guys -azsfw - just different names!

 

wonder who made political contributions to Burns in 2010 to stop the bill 2619 from the floor?