runningbird Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Talking to a friend last night about an idea, come to find out he had the same idea and has acted on it. The thought was how do we get info about important bill or changes in a quick way. He has started a site and will collect all the Email addresses he can, when something comes up like what happened at the capitol yesterday he can let us all know. He will NEVER give out our email address to another person or group. Go to the site and check it out, please keep in mind that it has just started has of yesterday. Mark . http://www.azgfc.com/contact_info.htm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Any way the updates can show up here on the forum? Much like the Field & Stream updates showed up for a while? This would be a great addition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
runningbird Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Any way the updates can show up here on the forum? Much like the Field & Stream updates showed up for a while? This would be a great addition. a update will be emailed to you as soon as things start to happen. it is then up to all of us to put them on the different sites that we visit. The main thing is that we will be informed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjhunt2 Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Talking to a friend last night about an idea, come to find out he had the same idea and has acted on it. The thought was how do we get info about important bill or changes in a quick way. He has started a site and will collect all the Email addresses he can, when something comes up like what happened at the capitol yesterday he can let us all know. He will NEVER give out our email address to another person or group. Go to the site and check it out, please keep in mind that it has just started has of yesterday. Mark . http://www.azgfc.com/contact_info.htm I did go to the site and read it all. I must say it is very interesting. It just might be an assest to the sportsmen and women of Arizona. I urge everyone to read it. TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
runningbird Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Quite a bit of information was just added on the update portion of the site. Read it and it will help you understand the lies that are being tossed our way now...... good luck and goodnight, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Thanks Mark Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krp Report post Posted March 2, 2012 It's important for all to sign up, building a coalition of private individuals, sharing an understanding of what hunting and conservation is ultimately about. I look forward to working with you all and thank Commissioner Freeman for the opportunity. Kent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Great site. I signed up. Is Norm your friend????? Seems like his position could really help all of us understand what is happening with wildlife issues...........Allen........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanBnAZ Report post Posted March 2, 2012 Great site! Thanks to commissioner Freeman for creating it. One thing I found very disturbing was the downloadable comparison to Utah. It points out that the passage of this bill could jeopardize the G&F receiving the PR & DJ monies from the feds. Am I reading this correctly? If so, that would cripple our G&F Department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted March 3, 2012 I have exchanged emails numerous times with norm today....what a good guy.....great site...great commissioner....allen Taylor.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugler Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Good morning folks. I posted the results of my meeting with senator Sylvia Allen yesterday, on the MM site. This is my first on CW as i rarely visit these things but started doing so recently, although I read this site alot. Thanks JD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted March 3, 2012 Good morning folks. I posted the results of my meeting with senator Sylvia Allen yesterday, on the MM site. This is my first on CW as i rarely visit these things but started doing so recently, although I read this site alot. Thanks JD Any way you can post here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coueshunter Report post Posted March 3, 2012 can someone paste. jd's. monster muley post here? Jd had a great meeting with. rep. allen yesterday. she is an. Ave. Joe supporter....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugler Report post Posted March 3, 2012 It actually worked. Im not as computer illiterate as i thought. LOL Bugler (1172 posts) Mar-03-12, 07:47 AM (MST) "Meeting with Senator" Good morning from the top of the Rim. I would have posted last night but when I got home after Meeting with Senator Allen i was pretty mentally wasted. Its alot of information to try and get out to one person in a short amount of time, but i did my best and hope I did not fail. I am confident however that the message was well received. Thank you all for your E-mails, letters etc. I painted a bright picture for her to understand what and who is behind this bill and what their motives are as far as many of us can see.How this is nothing more than a financial gain for those trying to push it forward. I exposed alot of truths to her about those involved and although im sure they would want me executed at this point it was the absolute right thing to do. Our tags our ours, each and every citizen of this state. WE ARE NOT represented as a whole by one group but my many !We do have a say in the process. Now what i was told. This bill had absolutely no traction when it was brought in under emergency legislation by Jerry Weirs. None. Thanks to game and fish and others it was brought to the attention of many in the house that this bill was toxic for the state. I was told that She does not see this moving forward as it is very unpopular, however...... As mentioned before a strike everything bill could be initiated. It could go something like this, a bill introduced covering toilets for the capitol or state buildings G&F etc. Then on line 10 or whatever down in the bill all the verbage for 2072 would be written, this bill would have a different number than 2072 but all the same language....! Isnt politics just wonderful made me sick to my stomach really. I had to ask her how she dealt with it. So she, Senator Sylvia Allen, told me that she would definately be watching for the bill as things start to trickle into the senate, but she doesnt think it will due to it being largely unpopular with constituents and Game and Fish. I salute the AZGFD for standing up for the citizens of Arizona. Just so you know Senator Allens Husband was seated to my left and was a great guy, I could tell just by speaking with him, sometimes you justy know. And he is a hunter. She mentioned how hard it is to draw a tag in Arizona, i agreed. I metioned that this bill DOES NOT follow the North American model and explained the Kings Deer type model to her. I pointed out that the bill would cost G&F to start it and that as of right now the G&F gets all of the money raised from Auction tags like the ADA Commisioner tag etc and that if the bill would push through they may lose Govt grants and funding etc etc. She laughed at the "legislator" tag thing and said wow i guess thats our buy off or something to that effect like the AZSFW was placating them by naming tags after the legislators. This is a shrewd woman and she is an AVG Joe type.I really enjoyed my meeting with her and expressed to her again that the SFW does not represent the AZ Sportsmen except in their own mind. She was impressed by the wildlife federations statement as I gave her a copy and I gave her a list of all the organziations that have stepped away and denounced the SFW and SFW c and the bill. I loved that part to be honest. So that was the gist of it. It went well and she will be talking to others at the capitol. I expected to find a mansion or something when I rolled up in the ole pickup but it was a nice farmhouse on a dirt road. Now when I say nice it was a regular home but nice. This Senator gets it and understands the private land thing as well. She definately said to keep our eyes on it and if the bill gets introduced again into the house or Senate to start calling your rep. to let everyone you know in on the bill and start burning up the phone lines and keyboard to get the message across that this will not be tolerated. After all a politician wants to keep their job. SO thats it, thanks to Norm Freeman for starting the website I ask that you take a look at it I dont have the link right now but its easy to find here on MM if someone would post that link. Im not sure if Jerry Weirs is gonna try and put it forward again, Don Martin said he wouldnt and I was told by the senator that she didnt think he would either. I want to add that Don has done alot for the good of Arizona and that he did not support the bill and I believe he was in the dark about it just as you and I when his pal put it through. I think it would have been smart for his buddy to get the pulse of the people through Don before jumping into the pot but thats his business. We all have friends and i know that if they made a mistake you wouldnt agree but would still be there for them if they were mobbed. Im not defending Weirs one bit, im just saying Don has done good works and we need to mend wounds and go forth to defeat the SFW and their bill. BTW I have not talked to Don. So in closing I ask that we keep hyper vigilant on this and watch closely very closely and sound the alrm when we need to. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonecollector Report post Posted March 4, 2012 Nice job JD, Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
