andygrand Report post Posted March 1, 2012 If anybody has the swift reloading manual and doesn't mind giving me some info that would be awesome. I need to know Basic loading info for 180gr scirrroco 2s in a 300 win using h4831. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmf1321 Report post Posted March 1, 2012 http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygrand Report post Posted March 1, 2012 Thanks for the link. I am familiar with that site, unfortunately hodgdon doesn't list data for swift bullets. Being that they are constructed differently than say 180gr noslers, I can't substitute data from those bullets. Swift had their own manual they use and I was hoping someone had one so I an shoot while I wait for mine to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted March 1, 2012 I am curious why you can't substitute that data? If it is the same weight, why does it matter? Even if the bullet looks different, it is the same weight and caliber so shouldn't it push down the barrel the same? Are you worried about possibly the jacket being to soft and exploding inside the barrel or something? I don't mean to hijack your thread, and ill start another if you want, but I haven't heard you can't substitute data like that before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygrand Report post Posted March 1, 2012 I am by no means a reloading expert but I will explain it to you the way it was explained to me. I will also tell you the experience I had. Bullets like Swift, Barnes, and some of the other solid copper bullets have a thicker jacket than other types of bullets. Thus, although they are the same weight and same caliber you are looking at different densities. A rifle shooting is basically a controlled explosion going down the barrel of your gun. One of the reasons for reloading is to get as much velocity (pushing that explosion up to the edge of the limits of the gun) as possible. When you increase density you increase pressure which has no where to go except backwards towards the bolt. In my personal experience, I loaded some Barnes bullets 2 gr below maximum loads for other bullets of the same weight but different manufacturer. Because of the extra pressure created by the softer copper bullet, I ended up with to much pressure and broke the ejector in my gun. As soon as I backed it down, I ended up with a great shooting load that didn't have the pressure problems. My load for the Barnes bullets is a full grain below starting loads for standard 85gr bullets. Hopefully this answers your question. If there is anyone out there with the Swift manual that can help me, that would be awesome. They are backordered and I won't have mine for a while. I am curious why you can't substitute that data? If it is the same weight, why does it matter? Even if the bullet looks different, it is the same weight and caliber so shouldn't it push down the barrel the same? Are you worried about possibly the jacket being to soft and exploding inside the barrel or something? I don't mean to hijack your thread, and ill start another if you want, but I haven't heard you can't substitute data like that before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRL1984 Report post Posted March 23, 2012 If anybody has the swift reloading manual and doesn't mind giving me some info that would be awesome. I need to know Basic loading info for 180gr scirrroco 2s in a 300 win using h4831. Thanks in advance. I have the book and for the H4831 and 180 gr. ti gives a starting load of 70.2 with a velocity of 2702. The max load is 75.5 with a 2982 velocity. It shows a 101% load density with the max load. Oh and looking it doesn't designate that it is the scirroco 2, just says scirroco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygrand Report post Posted April 2, 2012 Just saw this post. I had given up hope. Thanks for the info I truly appreciate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
