Governor hearing a sales pitch for HB2072 today

[krp]

The meeting was with the Governors staff, as in staff meeting... she wasn't there and that's normal. I heard two commissioners spoke and were against the presentation.

 

Kent

[krp]

I was also hoping John could confirm the revisions I heard about?

 

Kent

[40-year-AZ-hunter]

I was also hoping John could confirm the revisions I heard about?

 

Kent

 

 

Sorry it will not format here as it was sent out in Word but,

Here is the memo from Hamberlin:

 

 

Memorandum

To: Arizona Sportsmen and Conservation Organization Board of Directors

FROM: Alan Hamberlin, Chairman AZSFW

RE: Response to Organization Concerns about HB 2072

DATE: February 29, 2010

 

In our continuing effort to communicate with sportsmen and conservation organizations, we wanted to bring you up to date on the status of HB 2072. Earlier today we met with representatives from the Governor’s office and two of the five commissioners primarily to see if there is an opportunity for continuing dialogue on the bill. We agreed to continue to communicate with them as we progress to let them know what changes we are making to the bill.

We appreciate the responses and feedback that we have received relative to the introduced version of the bill and our responses to those concerns are listed below. It is our desire to solicit any additional concerns you may have. We respectfully request that this memo be disseminated to all members of your respective Boards of Directors asking them to identify additional issues that they may have. We will seriously evaluate and respond to any legitimate concerns. There are at least four items that we agree to modify in response to concerns and issues that have been raised thus far as follows:

1. The original bill had no cap on administrative fees; we will cap those fees at 10%

2. While the original bill had a reporting requirement for the qualifying organization to adopt a Board resolution and submit it to the Arizona Game and Fish Department specifying the amount of proceeds received from the sale of tags from the auction and raffle and sold at the EXPO and Banquets and the costs associated with same and the monies paid for each of the six purposes listed in the bill and the cost of administration. We will add a new provision requiring an annual outside independent audit of the proceeds received from tag sales and the expenditure of those proceeds by a certified public accountant.

3. We have been asked to cap the number of tags that will be available as a result of the legislation in the future to 350 tags. We agree to cap the number of tags at 350.

4. Concern has been raised by some that none of the monies flow directly back to the Arizona Game and Fish Department (AZGFD). We are willing to negotiate with Game and Fish and are prepared to offer them up to 30% of the net proceeds to augment their hunter recruitment program if they support the legislation.

 

Please communicate any additional concerns to Suzanne Gilstrap at 602-390-4518 or preferably communicate via email to suzanne@capitolconsultingaz.com .

[AZ402]

I was also hoping John could confirm the revisions I heard about?

 

Kent

 

 

Sorry it will not format here as it was sent out in Word but,

Here is the memo from Hamberlin:

 

 

Memorandum

To: Arizona Sportsmen and Conservation Organization Board of Directors

FROM: Alan Hamberlin, Chairman AZSFW

RE: Response to Organization Concerns about HB 2072

DATE: February 29, 2010

 

In our continuing effort to communicate with sportsmen and conservation organizations, we wanted to bring you up to date on the status of HB 2072. Earlier today we met with representatives from the Governor’s office and two of the five commissioners primarily to see if there is an opportunity for continuing dialogue on the bill. We agreed to continue to communicate with them as we progress to let them know what changes we are making to the bill.

We appreciate the responses and feedback that we have received relative to the introduced version of the bill and our responses to those concerns are listed below. It is our desire to solicit any additional concerns you may have. We respectfully request that this memo be disseminated to all members of your respective Boards of Directors asking them to identify additional issues that they may have. We will seriously evaluate and respond to any legitimate concerns. There are at least four items that we agree to modify in response to concerns and issues that have been raised thus far as follows:

1. The original bill had no cap on administrative fees; we will cap those fees at 10%

2. While the original bill had a reporting requirement for the qualifying organization to adopt a Board resolution and submit it to the Arizona Game and Fish Department specifying the amount of proceeds received from the sale of tags from the auction and raffle and sold at the EXPO and Banquets and the costs associated with same and the monies paid for each of the six purposes listed in the bill and the cost of administration. We will add a new provision requiring an annual outside independent audit of the proceeds received from tag sales and the expenditure of those proceeds by a certified public accountant.

3. We have been asked to cap the number of tags that will be available as a result of the legislation in the future to 350 tags. We agree to cap the number of tags at 350.

4. Concern has been raised by some that none of the monies flow directly back to the Arizona Game and Fish Department (AZGFD). We are willing to negotiate with Game and Fish and are prepared to offer them up to 30% of the net proceeds to augment their hunter recruitment program if they support the legislation.

 

Please communicate any additional concerns to Suzanne Gilstrap at 602-390-4518 or preferably communicate via email to suzanne@capitolconsultingaz.com .

 

Wow!.........

[SpeedGoat]

Saw an email that Coconino Sportsmen are out

[AZLance]

Ok guys, Suzane's phone number is posted above, lets all call and give her a insight into what we think of her crappy legislation!

 

1-602-390-4518.

 

Start calling now, I just called and she answered.

[krp]

That's what I heard... Wonder what they think of Pete pulling his support of AZSFW, I know he did because he stated that to us all at the ADA meeting... if they tried this legislation again.

 

Kent

[elkaholic]

Ok guys, her phone number is posted above, lets all call and give her a insight into what we think of her crappy legislation!

 

1-602-390-4518.

 

Start calling now, I just called and she answered.

 

 

Why are they giving contact information at this time - they haven't even discussed anything up to now ???

 

I just think its fishy~

[krp]

That's not a public memo...

 

Kent

[Snapshot]

If they get 54 tags too auction, at lets say $200,000 each equals $10,800,000. a 10% admin fee would mean $1,800,000.

Heck, maybe I should start my own conservation group and make a nice living.

[Guest akaspecials]

It makes me sick to my stomach to think that there are "sportsman" in this state that are trying to steal our tags and profit off of them. A lot of us may disagree with game and fish's tag allotments, but it's their responsibility and theirs alone to allocate tags.

 

STAY AWAY FROM OUR TAGS AZSFW!

[DesertBull]

If they get 54 tags too auction, at lets say $200,000 each equals $10,800,000. a 10% admin fee would mean $1,800,000.

Heck, maybe I should start my own conservation group and make a nice living.

 

They are not going to get $200,000 each. Most of the tags are not year long tags, they are the same tags we would draw. I don't think anyone is going to pay $200,000 for say a 2 week unit 9 archery tag. They could get 5 figures for it though. Maybe. The $200,000 tags are the gov tags that last all year and are legal in most units.

[Snapshot]

If they get 54 tags too auction, at lets say $200,000 each equals $10,800,000. a 10% admin fee would mean $1,800,000.

Heck, maybe I should start my own conservation group and make a nice living.

 

They are not going to get $200,000 each. Most of the tags are not year long tags, they are the same tags we would draw. I don't think anyone is going to pay $200,000 for say a 2 week unit 9 archery tag. They could get 5 figures for it though. Maybe. The $200,000 tags are the gov tags that last all year and are legal in most units.

 

Even if they got 25% of that amount, it will still be a chunk of change going into AZSFW coffers.

[.270]

I can't believe you guys that say you can't believe they are trying it again. Liars and thieves. That's who we're dealing with. Liars and thieves. They won't give up. Hamberlin wants the tags for all his buddies and kids. Look what the sfw plant in Alaska did. There is no limit to the slime they are willing to ooze. Lark.

[DesertBull]

If they get 54 tags too auction, at lets say $200,000 each equals $10,800,000. a 10% admin fee would mean $1,800,000.

Heck, maybe I should start my own conservation group and make a nice living.

 

They are not going to get $200,000 each. Most of the tags are not year long tags, they are the same tags we would draw. I don't think anyone is going to pay $200,000 for say a 2 week unit 9 archery tag. They could get 5 figures for it though. Maybe. The $200,000 tags are the gov tags that last all year and are legal in most units.

 

Even if they got 25% of that amount, it will still be a chunk of change going into AZSFW coffers.

 

no doubt. Gilstrap stands to get a huge chunck so it's no wonder she still leading the charge to get it done. Maybe her and Hamberlin have taken it on by themselves? She gets the $$$$$, he gets the tags.