Baiting

[billrquimby]

I will say there is a difference in tactics from east to west and north to south, the one thing that matters is that if you don't like to hunt that way you don't have to do it. How you as an individual feel about the hunt is what matters......

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Well said.

[wklman]

I don't care how big a deer would be under a feeder.I'd take a spike 2 miles back in the tulies before I'd shoot a boone and crockett buck under a feeder.what would you tell all your hunting buddies.what a great hunt guys!the feeder came on,out came the buck, bang!.I wouldn't be able to look any of my friends straight in the eye and say I "hunted" for a deer like that.even if the terrain is brush choked.feeding shouldn't be used as a way of getting an animal.

 

wade

[DotShot]

What you'd tell your hunting buddies (whom also would be setting feeders) is that you scored a B&C buck and they would be just as happy as the buddies you would tell about your spike that you walked 2 miles in the tulies for. And I only say this because i too had your mentality, born and raised in arizona (wklman? wouldnt happen to live in winkleman would ya?) grew up walking my a$$ off for that spike. Married my wife (Texan) and was afforded the opportunity to hunt on her sisters ranch in South Texas. I tried the walking bit in hopes of killing that big whitetail, no such luck. My father-in-law told me i had to sit in the stands or my efforts would produce minimal, he was correct. Once i started sitting the stands either on feeders or Oat patches, i started seeing lots of bucks, and i do mean lots, but i have yet to kill that B&C buck because as much as you may think that B&C is going to run to the corn HAH not likely. If you by chance do kill a B&C class buck in the area of a feeder he is usually passing through or chasing one of the does that frequents your feeders. Again, i know people have different feelings in regards to this, but cmon sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do, and whats that old saying "when in rome, do as the romans do"?

[dave]

Well BRKNAROW you have clients?

 

You need to call the G&F to find out what the rules are?

[wklman]

the problem with hunting over feeders is that there is no gratification or respect in taking the animal.it would be like raising a cow in a pen then taking it out to a pasture and shoot it while it was feeding on some corn.to me its all about the hunt.finding an animal,stalking up to within range and taking it.there's no excitement or challenge sitting in a stand waiting for a deer to walk up to a feeder to shoot it while it is eating.if the romans were all sitting around smoking crack all day would you be doing that as well.sorry,but i'm not into doing what the crowd and other people say i have to do.my favorite saying is "let your consience be your guide" and mine says its time to goto bed.

 

wade

[billrquimby]

I find it interesting that local hunters in Africa feel the same way about the hunting operations that build elevated blinds for bowhunters over waterholes. Some say it is unsportsmanlike to shoot an animal within 1/4 mile of water, even with a rifle.

[Kilimanjaro]

And we all know what opinions are like....... cuz everybody's got one.......

[singleshot]

A statute is in place that you can be cited for if you place salt blocks on Forest service or State land in a manner that sterilizes the earth. You have probably noticed that a lot of the blocks that are being placed close to the roads are set into tires and tubs.

[DotShot]

Well this will be my last input on this subject. If you want to make it challenging as you put it, put away the optics, the scents, trail cam's, rattling horns, the atv's and such and grab a traditional longbow, or muzzle loader and get after it. What i find most laughable about this is the fact that those who are against feeders make it sound like its a given that you are going to kill something, and its not. I will enjoy my hunts on the ranch regardless of how people feel about the methods used. And my final parting shot, wklman, would you shoot this even though it was shot from a blind on a feeder as it passed not giving second thought to the corn? or let it walk? My guess is that to save face, you'll say you'd let it pass, and we both know the real truth. No matter how you do it, have fun doing it, and take you kids with you as those times in the field or in the blind will be the ones they most remember.

 

 

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[Noel Arnold]

I have done very hard backpacking trips for coues.I have driven down a road and a bunch of javelina walked accross, stopped the truck and stalk them with my bow and shoot one. I do plan on going to Texas to shoot feral pigs and deer.My point is hunting is hunting and as long as it is done legally,it is all good.

Noel

[Idahocoueshunter]

WKLMAN, I like your way of thinking. My uncle hunted Coues his whole life, until moving to Texas. He thought, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". He leased a ranch, feeder, and blind, the whole nine yards. He hated it. Even stove up as he was, he took vacation and paid the out of state fees and hunted Coues. Not for the meat or the trophy, but for the satisfacton of the hunt and the company of good friends with similar values. Would I shoot a a 130 B&C, non typical with a drop tine under a feeder? No. First of all I doubt B&C would consider shooting under a feeder fair chase, and second of all I wouldn't be in that situation. I have relatives in Texas who bait. They tell me they have to bait to keep the deer on their property. The feed fatten and harvest. Thats great for them, but it's not for me. I hate to get into the great bait debate, because some prefere it, but just because its legal, dosen't make it right.

 

 

Craig.

[billrquimby]

Years ago I came up with my own definition for "ethics" as it pertains to hunting. It goes thusly: "Ethics are the standards accepted by the majority of hunters in a particular region."

 

Thus, hunting deer with dogs is unethical (and illegal in most places) in the West and East, but perfectly acceptable in certain areas in the South. Hunting from a blind at a waterhole is ethical in North America; unethical in South Africa. Etc. Etc.

 

Using my definition, I tallied the "not opposed to baiting" and "against baiting" in this thread and found the issue is tied 7 to 7 (counting myself as not opposed).

 

So much for surveys.

 

Bill Quimby

 

 

[Rembrant]

I can tell you one thing for sure, the more hoopla there is on this subject, like open forum discussion, calls to the game dept, word of mouth, and feeding sites discovered in the woods, the more likely the dept will be inclined to take measures to make it illegal - just like bear-baiting.

So if your ethics allow you to bait deer, keep your mouth shut - you'll get to do it longer.

Common sense, folks...

Mike

[.270]

huntin' over a cornflinger is just fine. if yer a woman or in a wheelchair. i don't care how thick the brush is in texas. it ain't as hard as bailin' off into the blue or off the mogollon after a big bull elk or a deer or whatever. oak brush so thick you have to swim through it. rockslides, cliffs, etc. folks hunt from stands over corn because they're lazy and it's legal. i've hunted and punched cows in cholla patches thicker than any mesquite patch texas has to offer. if you want to or have to do something bad enough, you'll tough up and do it. i've seen the "senderos", (which means "road where you drop the corn") and stuff in texas. i'd love to hunt country that easy. sticker patches and all. try trackin' a buck through a panther claw patch on the slopes of any mountain in southern Az. i don't think there is anything rougher to do. if you want to hunt over corn, fine. but don't say it's because you have to. Lark.

[DotShot]

Must be nice to have it all figured out.......