.270 Report post Posted February 3, 2012 so the circus just adds more rings. what part o' "carnivore" don't these morons understand? just when you think they can't get any stupider, they do. the stupidity is amazing. maybe they oughta just feed em tofu. Lark. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2012/01/29/20120129experts-tap-wolves-senses-steer-them-from-cattle.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pwrguy Report post Posted February 3, 2012 Thats a great idea Lark, I think you may be on to something. They could genetically engineer these wolves so that they only eat tofu, then, they could place taxpayer funded tofu feeders all through the forests. Briliant!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted February 3, 2012 If they could train the wolves to only hunt and eat coyotes and Mountain lion, just think of what that would do for our deer herds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twigsnapper Report post Posted February 3, 2012 This is the real deal. The best analogy I have heard is comparing it to getting really drunk on a certain type of alcohol and every time you smell it again you get queasy. Jim Beam does it for me, that stuff is bad news, but it was a fun night. I have heard a little about this in controlled testing and it works but the real challenge is to make it work in the wild. I always worry about the side affects and unintended consequences of this kinda thing. If we train wolves to not eat livestock then haven't we just trained them to eat deer, sheep, elk............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missedagain Report post Posted February 3, 2012 I know of something that they can lace the wolves beef with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted February 3, 2012 We spend money on this crap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted February 3, 2012 Yup. Somebody is making money on it too. Lark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted February 3, 2012 Sounds like the morons back east that try to give contraceptives to deer. Actually that would be a good job for some of those guys in congress. Putting rubbers on bucks. That would keep them busy for awhile and out of our business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted February 3, 2012 Feb. 3, 2012 Arizona wolf numbers are up Arizona Game and Fish Department conducts 2011 population surveys in state for multi-agency Mexican wolf program The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), Arizona Game and Fish Department and other partners in the Mexican Wolf Reintroduction Project announced earlier today that the endangered Mexican wolf population count increased to a minimum of 58 wolves compared to last year’s count of 50. The increase is encouraging news for the multi-agency program, especially considering that the state’s largest wildfire, the Wallow, burned through three packs’ denning areas within weeks of pups being born. The wolf project stimulates high public interest, and the public often asks Game and Fish how wolf population surveys are conducted and what the department’s role in the project is. The Arizona Game and Fish Department dedicates five staff to the Interagency Field Team (IFT), the multi-agency group that oversees on-the-ground wolf conservation activities. Game and Fish’s IFT staff are responsible for the day-to-day management of wolves; coordinating and conducting the annual population counts; and, any helicopter-associated wolf captures in Arizona on public lands and on the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. In addition, the department provides pilots and fixed-wing planes to assist in locating wolves via telemetry signals prior to the helicopter counts and any capture efforts throughout the Blue Range Wolf Recovery Area (BRWRA), which encompasses parts of Arizona and New Mexico. This year the department conducted the surveys in Arizona, while FWS conducted them in New Mexico. Other specially-trained Game and Fish personnel that are not part of the IFT assist with capture operations in Arizona to ensure darting and net-gunning activities are conducted in the safest and most proficient manner possible. Even before aerial operations begin, Game and Fish’s IFT staff are involved in estimating the number of uncollared wolves present in Arizona. They begin surveying for uncollared wolves months earlier through howling surveys, track surveys, use of trail cameras and other methods. They also contact stakeholders, such as landowners and grazing permittees, in the wolf reintroduction area to advise them of upcoming surveys and collect any wolf activity information from them. “Developing partnerships with these critical stakeholders and implementing proactive management efforts to reduce wolf-livestock interactions on public and private lands is, we believe, the key to the long-term survival of the wolves in the Southwest,” said Director Larry Voyles of the Arizona Game and Fish Department. “Building public tolerance by those who live on the land and must coexist with the wolf is crucial to the success of the Mexican wolf program in Arizona. “Every biologist who works on an endangered species repatriation project prays for the day that wild-born progeny are on the ground,” said Voyles. “The IFT estimates that more than 90 percent of the collared wolves on the ground today in Arizona were born in the wild. Further, we have at least an 18 percent increase in total numbers and a 150 percent increase in breeding pairs over 2010 numbers. “Even though these numbers are below the target levels of the recovery plan, these elements exhibit a cornerstone achievement in Mexican wolf conservation,” continued Voyles, “and this year’s count gives credence to the fact that we are moving in a positive direction.” The IFT estimates the Mexican wolf population at a minimum count level because it is impossible to find and verify every uncollared animal that may exist in the wild. However, the 2011 population count is considered one of the most inclusive because the IFT trapped and collared 16 wolves this fall, allowing biologists to more accurately track and estimate the population than in years when fewer animals were collared. Population survey and management activities conducted by Game and Fish’s IFT staff are funded by contracts and grants from FWS; no sportsmen-generated funds are used for these count efforts. The project’s other cooperative partners include FWS, White Mountain Apache Tribe, USDA Forest Service, USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service – Wildlife Services, and Graham, Greenlee and Navajo Counties. For more information on the Mexican wolf in Arizona, visit www.azgfd.gov/wolf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azslim Report post Posted February 3, 2012 more tax money pissed away, therapy will work for adults now, what about the pups, are they going to round them up and feed them the stuff, then the next batch, and the next........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted February 4, 2012 heck, they have to round em all up on a regular basis to give em their parvo boosters anyway. these things are a circus act with a buncha midget clowns in a little firetruck runnin' the show. gonna train em to not eat beef? man, tell us another one. what a buncha comedians. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pine Donkey Report post Posted February 4, 2012 This will never work. I've seen my dogs get into the garbage can, eat some thing bad, puke it up, eat it again, and puke again. Next time they get the chance they are going through the garbage again. Time it spend our money wisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted February 4, 2012 i've seen the same dog get into porkypines time and time again. i'm thinkin' a porkypine has gotta be a lot more painfull than meat that makes em have a tummy ache. and these things are dogs. go figger. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azslim Report post Posted February 4, 2012 Lark, I have the certificate my Great-Grand-Father received from his participation in a "Wolf Round-up" in Wy. I would like it if they held those type round-ups here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted February 4, 2012 my grandad's brother was a gov't trapper for about 40 years. i would bet he killed more mexican wolves than any other person. my grandad trapped quite a few also, but nothing like his brother. the mexican wolf is extinct and they need to just deal with that reality and not try to raise up some crossbred, inbred moron of a curr like they they are trying to do. there ain't anyway they will ever get an animal that can take care of itself. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites