KGAINES Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Ok, guys the survey is up and live. We will be running the survey until the commission meeting April 22. If you feel you know enough about the proposal to vote, you can go do that. If you want to take more time to learn about it, feel free to do that also. We just need responses by mid-April. Remember, you can only take the survey 1 time. You can go vote anytime by visiting the Arizona Deer Association website Amanda <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Amanda, I took the survey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TREESTANDMAN Report post Posted March 2, 2006 I took it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Me too. I voted to leave everything as is. I also checked "reduce predators" and "increase access to public lands" as ways to increase hunter opportunity. I debated over that and "improve habitat", but there is only so much you can do to alter the habitat. It is what mother nature gives us for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cramerhunts Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks for posting the link...I took the survey and hope it has the same impact that the elk survey had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KGAINES Report post Posted March 2, 2006 I also checked "reduce predators" and "increase access to public lands", I think improving the habitat is a little misleading, aside from water, and clean ups, there isn't much else that we can do without mother nature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Amanda, I see that a summary of the deer proposal is on the ADA site. Good. I stuck to my previous answers to "Do you support...?" NO! RR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Make sure you guys all tell as many people as you can to go take the survey. The bigger numbers we have the better our position. The elk guys got like 6,000 hunters I think. Let's shoot for that or more. We need help spreading the word. Maybe you know some guys without computers at home? Invite them to take the survey at your house or at a library computer. Help spread the word! Amanda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peloncillo Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Just filled mine out. Hopefully everyone else will to. Keven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rthrbhntng Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Just food for thought for those that don't think improving habitat will help. Please go to a meeting of the ADA and ask them about habitat. We are loosing quality habitat at an alarming rate to development, invasive weeds, encroachment by PJ and other trees, FS past no burn policies, lack of quality winter grounds, lack of quality birthing grounds, and many other reasons. The ADA as well as other groups are spending lots of money and time improving the habitat. Go to the G&F web site and search on reports of such things as the great growth rate of the mule deer herds in the area of the Rodeo Chediski fire and old burns that the deer have moved into and are flourishing because of the increase grass cover and available forbs. Many of the projects that G&F, ADA and the other groups are funding with there tag, banquet and membership dollars are improving habitat. These projects include PJ thinning to open meadows and encourage grass and forbs, Funding FS burns to encourage new growth, fencing off riparian areas to livestock grazing to let the grasses and plants grow tall for food for deer and cover for fawns, eliminating the expansion of invasive weeds and more. To those that say we need rain to grow forage, you are wrong. Many of the plants and grasses that the wildlife need are naturally drought resistant but have been choked out by encroachment of PJ and the lack of maintenance as in riparian areas to stop the congregation of the wildlife and livestock. AGAIN TAKE THE TIME TO GO TO MEETINGS OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION HERE IN AZ. Take a minute and look at the Burro Creek project that the AES did last year. www.arizonaelksociety.org. We were able to remove 26,000 acres of critical wildlife habitat from livestock grazing. There is a PDF file on the website for all to read. Then email the groups for information and support them. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Make sure you guys all tell as many people as you can to go take the survey. The bigger numbers we have the better our position. The elk guys got like 6,000 hunters I think. Let's shoot for that or more. We need help spreading the word. Maybe you know some guys without computers at home? Invite them to take the survey at your house or at a library computer. Help spread the word! Amanda <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe some of the groups that will have a booth at the upcoming ISE Show could set a up a computer or two so people can fill out the survey there. There will be thousands of hunters there over the weekend. If I had a laptop, I would let them borrow it, but I don't. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMoqui Report post Posted March 2, 2006 For those of you who took the survey and answered no to the hunting javelina in the fall, can I ask why? I understand if the rifle hunters don't want the regular joe schmo road hunter to just say oh well when he sees some pigs and then lets loose a barage of 30/06 on them and forgets about his deer tag. This, I could see being very annoying, but the archery hunt would be quite and the quail hunters have guns already and are making noise. 57% of you said no javelina hunts at all and another 28% said just not coinciding with the other hunts. I'm just curious. It seems like deer hunters don't want to share thier woods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Regarding the fall peccary hunts, I recall a former G&F employee stating that the fall is not the best time biologically to have a javelina hunt due to the timing of births and rearing period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25-06 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Just filled mine out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Desertbull, that is a good idea about the laptop. Maybe we will do that. the ADA will be at the expo next weekend. Might not be the best atmosphere to have people take the survey though. I guess we might want to have a quiet area where people could go. I don't want people being distracted taking it. Regarding the fall javelina hunt, Doug is right. There has been some concern raised about the biological impact of fall hunting on javelina. Part of the proposal is also to lower the average herd size statewide. Also, the new rifle javelina hunt would overlap the rifle deer hunt. Amanda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEERSLAM Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Done did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites