josh in globe

[.270]

didn't know that was you in globe until i got home and my kid told me. i was the good lookin' guy wearin' the cowboy hat and drivin' a red gmc with a rollaway bed in the back (i hate campin' uncomfortable). me and my boys stopped by late yesterday afternoon and bs'd a bit. i see the resemblence now, but you ain't near as cute in person as ya are in photos. guess i shoulda been thinkin' better, but i was tired. anyway, now ya know how the infamous ".270" looks in real life. at least how he looks after 5 days without a bath and livin' in pig camp. Lark.

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HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! That is too funny man! I had a good time talking with you and your boys for sure! Hope your son sends me a pic of that funny looking elk horn one of these days. Great talking with you!

[.270]

i don't why i didn't make the connection. i was dog tired. this huntin' is too much work. you sure ended up with some big ol' horns. that rez has a couple new world records wanderin' around on it right now. Lark.

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I did get a couple nice ones and I can't wait to see what comes in this year if those guys hit it hard enough. After 5 days of no bath I'd say you still looked good enough to roll around in a fart sack (sleeping bag) with 'ol Bullwidgeon.... LOL!

[GRONG]

woops

[az4life]

I did get a couple nice ones and I can't wait to see what comes in this year if those guys hit it hard enough.  After 5 days of no bath I'd say you still looked sexy enough to roll around in a fart sack (sleeping bag) with 'ol Bullwidgeon.... LOL!

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LOL... I think the "fartsack" is also called a "dutch oven"....

[.270]

i'm surprised either one o' you two can walk upright cuz it's real plain you both got "brokeback".

Lark.

[GRONG]

LOL!!!!!!!

[billrquimby]

Josh:

 

What's New Mexico's law about shed hunting? I seem to remember reading somewhere that we couldn't pick up sheds on public land and had to report anything we found to the game department. Was I having a nightmare?

 

BillQ

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Sounds like a nightmare Bill!! No the NM law states that it's against the law to pick up antlers attached to a skull. Sheds are fine but no sheep, elk or deer heads as they are property of the state. Kinda similar law here in AZ but it all depends on what warden you talk to I guess.

[billrquimby]

Sounds like a nightmare Bill!!  No the NM law states that it's against the law to pick up antlers attached to a skull.  Sheds are fine but no sheep, elk or deer heads as they are property of the state.  Kinda similar law here in AZ but it all depends on what warden you talk to I guess.

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Awful1 I find it amazing that a state would prosecute anyone for picking up bones and dried-out antlers or horn.

 

Bill Q

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I hear ya! A friend of mine just lost his job on the Forest Service for picking up an elk head. He wasn't even on the job when he picked it up either. Unreal!

[billrquimby]

I hear ya!  A friend of mine just lost his job on the Forest Service for picking up an elk head.  He wasn't even on the job when he picked it up either.  Unreal!

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Did your friend get a lawyer and appeal? I've not heard of a similar law in Arizona. What does it prohibit? How do we get it thrown out?

 

I hope there is a statute of limitations because I could be jailed for life for past transgressions.

 

BillQ

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Here is the latest on skulls and picking them up.

 

 

 

 

The following was from a recent AZGF newsletter -

Ask a wildlife manager

By Ron Day, law enforcement branch chief, Arizona Game and Fish Department

 

The legalities of picking up wildlife parts

 

 

A common question that needs to be addressed is the issue of whether individuals may pick up and keep the head, antlers, or any part of wildlife they find dead in the field. What may appear to be an easy question actually requires a complicated answer.

 

 

State law requires an individual to have evidence of legality when possessing or transporting wildlife carcasses or their parts. A hunting license and/or big game tag meets this requirement for wildlife lawfully taken during hunting season. However, if an individual in the field finds dead wildlife, or any part of an animal he or she did not legally take during the hunt, then that individual may not automatically possess and /or transport any of it.

 

 

If an individual wishes to keep such wildlife parts found in the field, he/she must contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department so an officer can determine the cause of death of the animal. If it is determined the animal died from a natural cause, such as predation, disease, fights, falls, drowning, lightning, etc., the wildlife part may be possessed by the individual. If the officer determines the animal died from an unnatural cause, such as wounding loss, illegal activity or vehicle collision, no part of the wildlife may be possessed or transported.

 

 

If the cause of death cannot be determined and the wildlife part is fresh, meaning bone or tissue moisture is present and the part is not oxidized, possession will not be allowed. This also applies to parts, such as skulls, where the age cannot be determined because the finder has boiled and/or cleaned them. If the cause of death cannot be determined and the part is old (with no moisture and oxidized), possession will be allowed.

 

 

Clear? Just remember, the key is to contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department prior to picking up the part. There is no way these parts may be lawfully possessed until the department has determined the cause of death.

[billrquimby]

"Clear? Just remember, the key is to contact the Arizona Game and Fish Department prior to picking up the part. There is no way these parts may be lawfully possessed until the department has determined the cause of death. "

 

No way am I going to hike out and return to town to call a wildlife manager when I find the head and antlers of a 400-plus bull elk, then hike back with the WM to retrieve it. This sounds like a bureaucracy's opinion of what some obscure law said.

 

I've come across dozens of dead deer, elk and javelinas, and a couple of antelope over the past 60 years afield but I won't say here what I did when I found them. The bone cops might come knocking on my door.

 

BillQ