Any Ron Paul Supporters Out There?

[joeeden]

I did forget to mention his assertion that "secret societies" run our country. Basically that our entire governmental process is a huge conspiracy. The FBI, CIA are all out to get us! Look it up.

[DesertBull]

Umm, sure.

 

Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity. — Ron Paul

 

 

100% true. I find it hard that anyone would question it.

 

 

And this gem.

 

Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,” Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although “we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.”

Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, “By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government” and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

 

 

That's horrible.....too bad for you that he did not write it.

 

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=377205

[Diamondbackaz]

Ron Paul recently condemned the killing of Al Qaeda Anwar al- Awlaki. If Ron Paul doesn't know who our enemies are, he doesn't belong in the white house, or even in Congress for that matter. nuff said.

[Diamondbackaz]

i've never heard him say much that impressed me. he's better than obama, but so is lung cancer. i don't know who or what the answer is, but i know what it ain't, and it ain't ron paul. just saying you're against everything isn't a good answer. this mess is gonna take a sharp, hardnosed, creative, tough guy to fix. all ron paul says is no taxes and no gov't. you hafta have taxes and you hafta have gov't. we need a lot less than we have of both, at least those of us that have jobs and contribute. but to just say no ain't the answer. i'm afraid of him not getting the nomination and going 3rd party and drawing enough votes away from the GOP candidate and helping to keep obama in office. like that squirrel ross perot did when he helped elect clinton, twice. Lark.

 

 

Well said

[Curtis Reed]

Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity. — Ron Paul

 

What's wrong with this? I agree 100% with this statement

[Curtis Reed]

Ron Paul recently condemned the killing of Al Qaeda Anwar al- Awlaki. If Ron Paul doesn't know who our enemies are, he doesn't belong in the white house, or even in Congress for that matter. nuff said.

 

He condemned the killing of a US citizen without due process. He was not sympathtic to al-Awlaki's cause, just pointing out that citizens rights should be protected by the Constitution. As a police officer, if I killed an unarmed man with no justification who was never even indicted for a crime; but only based on my judgement as if I was Judge Dredd, I would be top story on every news channel... but when Ron Paul questions the killing of a US citizen without that same due process he is labeled a loon.

 

"In targeting and killing an American citizen, without going to the bother of indicting and convicting him in a court of law, we have stripped all Americans of what little protection they have left against the depredations of a tyrannical government. The authorities can read our emails, listen to our phone calls, and rifle through our garbage – all in the name of our endless war on terrorism – and now they can kill us, too, without even a nod to legality. Nor do they have to reveal the reasons for our summary execution: it’s all “secret,” because, after all, they have to protect their “sources and methods.” Their methods, though, are coming to resemble those of the Gestapo and the KGB, as opposed to the law enforcement practices of a free people"

 

Little by little we are all giving up our liberty and some of us don't even know it's happening.

 

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

 

We will have to agree to disagree

[DesertBull]

Ron Paul recently condemned the killing of Al Qaeda Anwar al- Awlaki. If Ron Paul doesn't know who our enemies are, he doesn't belong in the white house, or even in Congress for that matter. nuff said.

 

He condemned the killing of a US citizen without due process. He was not sympathtic to al-Awlaki's cause, just pointing out that citizens rights should be protected by the Constitution. As a police officer, if I killed an unarmed man with no justification who was never even indicted for a crime; but only based on my judgement as if I was Judge Dredd, I would be top story on every news channel... but when Ron Paul questions the killing of a US citizen without that same due process he is labeled a loon.

 

"In targeting and killing an American citizen, without going to the bother of indicting and convicting him in a court of law, we have stripped all Americans of what little protection they have left against the depredations of a tyrannical government. The authorities can read our emails, listen to our phone calls, and rifle through our garbage – all in the name of our endless war on terrorism – and now they can kill us, too, without even a nod to legality. Nor do they have to reveal the reasons for our summary execution: it’s all “secret,” because, after all, they have to protect their “sources and methods.” Their methods, though, are coming to resemble those of the Gestapo and the KGB, as opposed to the law enforcement practices of a free people"

 

Little by little we are all giving up our liberty and some of us don't even know it's happening.

 

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

 

'nuff said.

 

Ron Paul has NEVER said that we should not have Gov't or taxes.....get real.

 

Let me guess, all you neo-cons believe the Patriot Act is good thing too?

 

We've now assassinated a US citizen without a trial. That makes you feel good? Really? The Gov't has now breached all 3 forms of checks and balances with this disgraceful act. That's democracy?

[.270]

i am glad al-awlaki is dead. one of the few things that obama has done is kept after terrorists. could do a lot more for sure, but at least they kill one every now and then. i don't care one iota if he got due process. he was crap and the world is a better place without him. he crossed the line you can't come back across and needed killed and kept up his crap until he did get killed. same with osama and all the other guys they greased. the world is better without them and there is no sin in killing them. i agree with probably 85% of what ron paul says, but the other stuff is too far out there for me. the thing that needs to happen is to get obama and his commie buddies outta DC and ron paul ain't the guy that's gonna get it done. there are several pretty good candidates that can beat obama and maybe get the wheels back on this wreck. i don't think ron paul can ever win a nationwide election. even if he is the answer, he doesn't have what it takes to unseat a sitting president. i hated john mcain and still do but i voted for him because he wasn't obama. ya gotta look at the big picture. and right now the the biggest thing in the big picture is obama and he needs to retire. Lark.

[jefftrucker12]

Ron Paul belives in

-Bring troops home

-decrease the size of the Fed. Gov.

-Give power back to people at the state level

-Staying out of other countries business/policing the world

-wants to make sure our money is actually backed by something

 

these are just off the top of my head. He's got my vote

[billrquimby]

I like a lot of what Ron Paul says, but I am in the camp that believes he lacks the charisma necessary to be elected president of the United States, even with the sad state of our economy and the sorry opponent he would face.

 

That said, he will get my vote if he is the Republican candidate.

 

As for our government killing a traitor, my thoughts would be different if he had been killed without due process here in the United States. Killing him in another country while he was traveling with known terrorists and plotting to attack my country and my family is another matter.

 

Whether we realize it or not, we are at war and the enemy includes slimeballs who also happen to be U.S. citizens.

 

Bill Quimby

[.270]

i also will vote for him if he wins the GOP nomination. but i don't think he will and i hope one of about 3 other guys do. he ain't a bad guy, i just don't think he is "the" guy. and as far as being isolationists, like he wants, it won't and can't happen. i think we should be a lot more critical of the folks we give me money to, but we are still the caretaker of the rest of the world. and hopefully we always will be, because when we aren't, somebody else will be, namely russia with their middle east cronies. and we'll have a real tough row to hoe if that ever happens. Lark.

[sjvcon]

As for our government killing a traitor, my thoughts would be different if he had been killed without due process here in the United States. Killing him in another country while he was traveling with known terrorists and plotting to attack my country and my family is another matter.

 

Whether we realize it or not, we are at war and the enemy includes slimeballs who also happen to be U.S. citizens.

 

BINGO!

 

A man joining Al Queda and moving to another country to live with them and plan terrorist attacks with them has RENOUNCED HIS CITIZENSHIP in my book. Anyone buy a gun lately. One question is whether you have ever renounced your US Citizenship. It is possible to do folks. Far as I am concerned Akbar Alakazaki or whatever he was calling himself did that in spades. Much as I dislike Obama, he did the right thing for once on that one. Like Bill said ... if the guy had been here in the US, different matter entirely.

 

As for Ron Paul ... guy has some good points and some I don't agree with. If he's the one with the ® at the end against the current guy, he'll get my vote. Problem is that he won't be, and if he runs Independent he's just going to end up stealing votes from someone who might actually otherwise win. Lark hit it with Ross Perot ... pulled away just enough to get ole' Bubba Clinton in there long enough to strip the heck out of the military (one of the ways he got his "surplus"). If RP wants to get in, he needs to run as a VP and do it that way ... it'll take time, but a stint as the Second Guy will cement his viability.

 

I am going to do a lot of reading in the coming months. I want to see what Cain is about. Seems he's the new one people are talking about. I don't like Romney. Perry is no better. Newt is the smartest of the bunch, but totally politically not viable due to his personal issues (and he has some political skeletons too). Bachman ... we'll see. Somehow, someway, we have to get someone who mainstream US Citizens will get behind and get Obama out of there. Four more years with him will sink this ship.

 

Bottom line is we are dealing with a bunch of "Politicians" ... what was it Ronald Reagan once said: "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first." Truer words were never spoken.

[Curtis Reed]

I don't see him running as an Independent. I think he would do the same thing he did in 2008, and just back out if it becomes obvious that he has no shot. I don't think he will pull a Perot.

[DesertBull]

Do you people base your votes on who CAN win or you WANT to win?

 

I would never bastardize my vote by selecting a candidate I don't agree with solely because the media says he can or cannot win. It's not a game where you win a prize if you select the winner. That's how we get goobers like Obama in the White House.

[Diamondbackaz]

Do you people base your votes on who CAN win or you WANT to win?

 

I would never bastardize my vote by selecting a candidate I don't agree with solely because the media says he can or cannot win. It's not a game where you win a prize if you select the winner. That's how we get goobers like Obama in the White House.

 

 

It's not the media that convinced me, It's the debate performance. The one I saw, he sucked. When it comes to the general election, selecting the winner is going to be done by the independents.