New to unit 24a

[HuntorFishAZ]

I pulled a 24a whitetail late november tag. I have never hunted or spent anytime in this unit. can anybody give me some insight on where to even begin. North or South of globe? Im cluless. Any info helps.

[firstcoueswas80]

Here ya go... This being your second post your probably not going to get GPS cords of where the 120's live.

 

Unit Boundaries

 

Beginning on AZ Hwy 177 in Superior; southeasterly on AZ Hwy 177 to the Gila River; northeasterly along the Gila River to the San Carlos Indian Reservation boundary; easterly, westerly and northerly along the reservation boundary to the Salt River; southwesterly along the Salt River to AZ Hwy 288; southerly on AZ Hwys 288 and 88 to U.S. Hwy 60; southwesterly on U.S. Hwy 60 to AZ Hwy 177.

 

The major mountain ranges within 24A include the Dripping Springs Mountains and the Mescal Mountains in the southern portion of the unit, the Pinal Mountains south of Globe, the Apache Mountains north of Globe, and the Timber Camp Mountains northeast of Globe. The northern portion of the unit, from the Dripping Springs Road north, is a mix of private property and Tonto National Forest land. The southern portion of the unit is a mix of State Trust Land, BLM land, and private property.

 

 

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Javelina

Overview: Overall, the javelina population has been increasing, but still hasn’t reached numbers its had in the past. Javelina hunting is about average for the unit. Each year, the Department offers an archery-only javelina hunt during the month of January, a primitive weapons hunt (handgun, archery, muzzleloader only) hunt in February, and a general hunt in February. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

Areas: Javelina can be found throughout the unit with the exception of the top of the Pinal Mountains south of Globe. The best way to hunt javelina is to find a high spot where you can see lots open desert hillsides in the mornings and evenings. Glass for javelina on south or west facing slopes and sunny bottomlands early in the morning when javelina are trying to warm themselves. Keep the wind in your face and move reasonably slow when you get within a couple of hundred yards, and you should have no problem getting within range for a shot.

 

To access some of the better javelina hunting in 24A ,you can check out some of the following areas: Dripping Springs Wash: To access this area turn west/northwest on the dripping springs wash road off of Hwy 77 about 15 miles south of Globe. There lots of open desert ridges in this area that lend themselves well to glassing.

Horseshoe Bend: Take the Wheatfield’s exit east of Forest Road 219 to the east off of old Hwy 88 just past the HE Ranch. Forest road 219 junctions with FR 220, which travels to Richmond Basin and FR 223, that leads to Shute Springs. Both these areas have javelina and good open slopes for glassing. 7-Mile Wash: There are fewer javelina in 7-Mile Wash in relation to other areas in the unit, but the area still provides a good hunting opportunity. To access this area go north of Globe on Hwy 77 to Forest Road 303. The low rolling hills on both sides of this road in 7-Mile, all the way to the Salt River can hold javelina. El Capitan: Forest Roads 1036, 527, and 2670 have great open slopes to Glass javelina. Explore both sides of Hwy 77, south of Globe.

 

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Mule Deer

Overview: Similar to mule deer population across the state; Unit 24A mule deer population has been declining since the mid 1990s. Mule deer are found scattered in the lower elevation areas of 24A, so be aware that white-tailed deer can also occur with mule deer in this unit, so be sure of your target before you shoot. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

 

Areas: A popular place to find mule deer is in the 7-Mile Wash Road area (Forest Road 303) at the north end of the Apache Mountains. Glass the lower elevation rolling hills for mule deer. Mule deer can also be found in the Dripping Springs wash area. To access this area one can turn west/northwest off State Route 77 about 15 miles south of Globe onto the Dripping Springs Road. Find a good high point and use your binoculars and you might just find a wily old mule deer buck lurking in this area. Another good area for mule deer is off the Horseshoe Bend Road (FR 219) on the west side of the Apache Mountains. Take the Wheatfields exit from Hwy 188 north of Globe across Pinal Creek and past the HE Ranch to the 219 Road. Forest Road 219 junctions with FR 220 that travels to Richmond Basin and FR 223 that leads to Shute Springs, both areas have with mule deer and good open slopes for glassing. Access to these areas is provided across private property so you must sign in and out as you cross private property. If you plan on hunting the northeast portion of 24A, be aware of the San Carlos Indian Reservation Boundary. Hunting on tribal land is not permitted with an Arizona Game and Fish permit.

 

 

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White-tailed Deer

Over view: Within the past couple of years, whitetail deer have been increasing as a whole in the state and the unit has its opportunities for harvest. Several bucks scoring over 90 inches have been killed in 24A over the last several years. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

Areas: A good whitetail hunting area in 24A, but with high hunter concentrations is found in the Pinal Mountains. The area is rugged and steep and the whitetails are seen primarily in the drainages below the mountain summit. A lot of glassing along with some patience will reveal the deer. Whitetails are found on most slopes of the Pinals, but glassing is difficult on the north side due to thick conifer and chaparral.

The high mountain elevation areas of the Dripping Springs Mountains located south of Globe also provide opportunity. The Dripping Springs road can be accessed south of Globe off of Hwy 77 across milepost 154. There are many roads that run north and south along the ridges that provide good glassing opportunities. Forest Roads 248 and 899 are two-trackers leading to the north of Dripping Springs road, and both of those will take you to good deer areas. Any of these roads are likely to lead you to whitetail deer. It is possible to

drive from Dripping Springs road thru Pioneer Basin (FR 112) all the way to Pinal Peak, although the road has been washed out and an ATV would be recommended. Be aware that mule deer also occur in these areas; so be sure of your target before you shoot.

 

If you want to hunt the northern portion of the unit, whitetails can be found in the areas of Timber Camp Mountain, Regal Canyon, Phillips Canyon, and Chrysotile Mine Area. Forest Roads 2334, 360 and 304 access these higher elevation grassland and chaparral habitats where whitetail deer have been increasing in numbers. Another area is off the Horseshoe Bend Road (FR 219) on the west side of the Apache Mountains. Take the Wheatfields exit from Hwy 188 north of Globe across Pinal Creek and past the HE Ranch to the 219 Road. FR 219 junctions with FR 220, which travels to Richmond Basin and FR 223, that leads to Shute Springs. Both these areas have whitetail and good open slopes for glassing. Travel by foot or horseback to access the upper slopes of the Apache Mountains for a better chance at a larger whitetail buck.

 

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Black Bear

Overview: Black bear hunting is offered in the spring and in the fall with a majority of the hunt success occurring in the fall. During the fall hunts, bears range widely in search of acorns, juniper berries, manzanita berries, and prickly pear cactus fruit in order to prepare their bodies for winter. Bears are crepuscular meaning they’re active early morning and late afternoon into the evening. Remember that dogs are not allowed in the spring hunt, but are allowed in the fall. Also, baiting bears is illegal regardless of the season. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

Areas: Some scouting options include the Pinal Mountains, Apache Peaks, and Timber Camp

Mountain. Areas near Timber Camp include the southern slopes found along F.R. 303 and the northern hills F.R. 304. The different canyons, drainages, creek bottoms, and saddles can provide opportunity in those areas. One access point to Apache Peaks is to take the Wheatfields exist east of Hwy 188 and follow the road until you see Hicks Rd on the east side of the road. Take it and follow it until you pass HE Ranch on the west side of the road. Take the road to the junction of FR 219 and FR 220 (Richmond Basin rd) on the east side of the road. You can follow this road (FR 220) to the south slopes of the Apaches Peaks and glass the slopes, saddles, and drainages.

 

The season dates are valid only until the female harvest objective is reached, after which time the season closes at sundown on the Wednesday immediately following. Hunters are responsible for checking to see if the hunt is still ongoing before they go afield. Season status must be checked by calling 1-800-970-BEAR (2327). Hunters are also required to contact the Arizona Game & Fish Department in person or by phone at the same number within 48 hours after taking a bear. In addition, a physical check-in must be done for each bear taken by a Arizona Game & Fish Department qualified employee within 10 days after contacting the Department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mountain Lion

Overview: The mountain lion harvest has averaged 8 lions in Unit 24A the past few years and populations in this unit appear to be stable. This is also contributed to immigrating and emigrating lions east on to the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation. To increase success, hunting with dogs is recommended, so if you use a guide be sure they’re licensed with the state and that they have the proper permits for guiding on Federal Land. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

 

Areas: Mountain lions are found throughout the unit wherever prey is plentiful. Lions are primarily nocturnal and prey on species such as deer, domestic livestock, javelina, and other small game. Glassing lions will be a challenge in its own due to the rough areas they live in such as rugged canyons and dense ridges. Lion tracks and sign can be located along forest roads and trails, as they seek easy walking when moving from location to location.

 

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Elk

Overview: The elk hunt in this unit is a Limited Opportunity hunt and is managed entirely as a Limited Population Management Zone. Based on observations of elk in the northeast portion of the unit, there is enough elk to provide an opportunity while supporting the management objectives. This hunt will help limit elk competition with mule deer and whitetail populations. Also, a large portion of the population in the unit is influenced by immigrating and emigrating elk from the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success

 

Areas: Due to very low populations in the unit, the best places to consider would be Timber Camp Mountain, Carol Spring Mountain, and the Apache Mountains. To access Timber Camp Mountain and Carol Spring Mountain from Highway 60, head north on the N77/E60 (Show Low Highway) for about 25 miles. Once you top out, Carol Spring Mountain is on the east side of the road and Timber Camp is on the West. To access the Apache’s, head north on N77/E60 (Show Low Highway) for about 10 miles and most of the access roads on the west side for a few more miles lead to the base of the Apaches. All of these areas are North/Northeast of Globe. Pre-scouting is Highly Recommended due to very low numbers of elk.

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Cottontail Rabbit

Overview: Hunters can find cottontails just about anywhere in the unit from the pine forest on the Pinal Mountains to the deserts in the southern portion of the district. The deserts in

the southern portion of the district will have higher densities of rabbits. The northern area of the district does have rabbits but the dense underbrush may keep the hunter from being

successful in this or her attempts to harvest rabbits. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

 

Areas: A couple of suggestions in the desert include the area east of Superior and the area of Drippings Springs should provide the hunter the best chances to take some rabbits home. There is no agriculture in unit 24A to speak of and therefore, one cannot look for these areas to hunt. As always early mornings and late evenings provide the best time to see and harvest rabbits.

 

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Tree Squirrel

Overview: There are very few tree squirrels in Unit 24A. There is a small population of Abert's squirrels in the Pinal Mountains South of Globe. There has been some discussion on closing the unit to hunting squirrels, but to date there is still a hunt. The top of the mountain is the only place where a hunter can find squirrels with any success. However, due to the presence of several homes, USFS campgrounds and mountaintop radio towers with often-occupied buildings, finding an area to hunt beyond the one-quarter mile limit can be challenging.

 

Prospective hunters should also learn the main road to keep from shooting towards or across a road. With these factors in mind, one can see the potential problems that could arise while hunting in the Pinals. Keep in mind that the following suggested areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

 

 

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Quail

Overview: Unit 24A has a viable population of Gambel's quail. Keep in mind that the following areas are recommended areas to scout and do not guarantee success.

Areas: These birds can be found anywhere in the unit. Some suggested areas to consider include Drippings Springs south of Globe, Horseshoe Bend North of Globe, and 7-Mile Wash North of Globe.

The problem with the Dripping Springs area is that it has a lot of cholla cactus. This can be hard on dogs and hunters that have not hunted this type of vegetation before.

The last areas mentioned above have an average huntable population. When hunting these birds they may escape into the dense brush making it difficult to hit them.

 

The birds located the northern portion of the unit can be found in the canyon bottoms and in areas near springs and waterholes. Hunt these birds down the canyon of the waterholes in the more arid, desert areas.

[arizonaelitefreak]

theres no deer in 24a! I would suggest buying a map and checking out area that looks like it might be of interest to you. 24a does hold some good bucks but you have to get out there and get away from the roads and all the people that hunt them from the roads. The coues I took last year was about 2 1/2 miles away from any road and there was a good group of coues bucks with him, just gotta get off the beaten path! good luck to ya, I have the same tag in there again this year so maybe Ill see ya out there!

[bonecollector]

You must have taken the last buck out of the unit. I havent seen any since. I guess there are no deer left in 24a but good luck.

[AZP&Y]

It's all those darn lions eating them coues!!

 

Get the best binos , tripod you can afford and GLASS!

 

Azp&y

[arizonaelitefreak]

You must have taken the last buck out of the unit. I havent seen any since. I guess there are no deer left in 24a but good luck.

lol no your nephew took the last one in the unit! And hopefully he will be taking his first elk with his bow next weekend! I cant wait to take the kids on their first elk hunt!

[Norteno]

I have the mule deer hunt in that unit in early November. Been glassing a lot and going back up tomorrow. So far its been all Muley's so far, but that is what I am looking for. I am going back up tomorrow.

 

If I see some coues I'll let you know.

[NavajoHunter]

i got that tag too and in the same boat as you...

[arizonaelitefreak]

everytime i have been out except for once i have seen bucks just not the ones im looking for! they are all coues of course just dont quit reach that 100" mark! they are out there just have to keep on glassing !

[fasttoys]

Hi guys I am also new to this area where exactly do you see these bucks i been glassing shutes and horse shoe bend i only seen two does muleys but i have a white tail tag i would appreciate any advice or tips on where to try.

Thanks

[arizonaelitefreak]

once again this weekend out there with my son on his mule deer hunt we came across some decent coues bucks, one a nice 2x3 or small 3 pt and a big spike spotted them when my dad was on the stalk of a nice 3pt mulie and a wounded 1x2! the mullies gave us the slip but not before my son put the smack down on a great tasting spike! i know where to go now if I want a decent buck, but would like to hold out for 100" + buck. the bucks are there, never heard of shutes horse shoe bend does hold both types of deer but i tend to think it holds more mulie then anything, try out torwards salt river canyon back behind seneca lake or since you are by horse shoe bend dont over lok richmond basin area on the way to horse shoe bend! good luck to you! I also have the thanksgiving hunt coming up!

[HuntorFishAZ]

I have the mule deer hunt in that unit in early November. Been glassing a lot and going back up tomorrow. So far its been all Muley's so far, but that is what I am looking for. I am going back up tomorrow.

 

If I see some coues I'll let you know.

[fasttoys]

Thanks guys i will try those areas this weekend