DEERSLAM Report post Posted January 12, 2006 I myself started out with a Browning BAR in 30-06 when I was 12, way back when. That gun didn't kick bad at all since it was a semi-auto and it had a fairly short lenth of pull. Picked up some bad habits with that semi-auto though. If I missed on the first shot I would just lay down a barrage till the gun was empty. Everyone always knew it was me shootin Maybe the .243 in a youth model with varmit loads then work up to big game loads. The gun would be passed down to his younger brother who is 6yrs old now so a youth model would get lots of use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Gone are the days when a kid woke from his bed and ran to the window to look at the cottonwoods growing along the canal. If the branches were blowing, it was going to be a tough day hunting dicky birds. When all a kid needed was a good mixed breed mutt for a companion and a Daisy Red Rider. To crawl up in an old timers lap and listen starry eyed to the tales of the hunt. The thrill of the suspense when the trap chains were heard before the catch was seen. And finally the day arrives when your out in the field with that first big game tag in your hand, holding a rifle that has seen a thousand miles, worn, scratched, faded. It wasn't a shiny new one, it was the one that was available, it was wonderful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Report post Posted January 13, 2006 singleshot, What a great perspective! The guns in my collection that mean the most to me are the old battered 22 I inherited from the old guy that lived next door when I was kid, the second hand muzzleloader I bought with money made from mowing lawns (first gun I ever bought and hunted with), and the 12 guage my Grandad passed along for my first turkey hunt. They all had a history when I got them and that history is more important to me than their usefulness (I still shoot all of them). Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Thanks kevin, The old battered pump and lever guns that came from the Wisconsin woods are the ones that are irreplaceable. My new Ruger #1's, hopefully will have sentimental value for my kids, but for me they don't mean much. I purchased an Ithica side by side 12 gauge from of all places the JC Penney catalog for $350 when I was 13 years old. Money made from working in the cotton fields. I was a small kid and the recoil was punishing but the trade off was a crumple of feathers and wings falling from the sky. My father, an artist in walnut, put on a recoil pad after three consecutive nights of losses in our rivalry. A limit of doves for the least amount of shells. I don't remember noticing a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted January 13, 2006 my first rifle was a winchester model 69 .22 that my uncle gave me because a guy he knew shot hisself with it and he didn't like it anymore. first rifle i bought was a real old model 94 .30/30. saved up my cotton choppin' money. got it at Talley and Sons in safford. $42 for it and 11 shells. still have it and pack it horseback often. shot my first deer and pig with it. also have killed elk, bears, lions, all kindsa stuff with it. most folks would scoff at using a .30/30, but i'm comfortable with it. i musta wore out a dozen daisy bb guns. dang, i wish i was a kid again. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEERSLAM Report post Posted January 13, 2006 My first rifle was passed down to me. Unfortuantly I don't have a rifle to hand down to my son, I still use them and grandpa is still using his. Besides none of them would fit my boy. Some day they will get grandpas and my guns, not anytime soon I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Times have changed. Myself and my children have been fortunate to have had a father and grandad to pass down firearms. I wish my children were as enthused about them as I am. They have cell phones, and video games and all the things I hate. But they also have the outdoors. Buy those kids a new rifle, the most important thing in all sportsmans future is passing down a hunting heritage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Reynaldo de la Torre Report post Posted January 13, 2006 I myself started out with a Browning BAR in 30-06 when I was 12, way back when. That gun didn't kick bad at all since it was a semi-auto and it had a fairly short lenth of pull. Picked up some bad habits with that semi-auto though. If I missed on the first shot I would just lay down a barrage till the gun was empty. Everyone always knew it was me shootin Maybe the .243 in a youth model with varmit loads then work up to big game loads. The gun would be passed down to his younger brother who is 6yrs old now so a youth model would get lots of use. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That reminds me of a friend of mine. He has some nice deer mounted and I thought wow this guy is a good archer. We went hunting one day and I took my 3 arrows. He took like 2 dozen (many). I did not get a shot but he killed a deer. He just "rained arrows on him." I thought that was funny. He did it artillery stlye. He just "walked the arows up to him." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bchoitz Report post Posted January 13, 2006 my first rifle was a winchester model 69 .22 that my uncle gave me because a guy he knew shot hisself with it and he didn't like it anymore. first rifle i bought was a real old model 94 .30/30. saved up my cotton choppin' money. got it at Talley and Sons in safford. $42 for it and 11 shells. still have it and pack it horseback often. shot my first deer and pig with it. also have killed elk, bears, lions, all kindsa stuff with it. most folks would scoff at using a .30/30, but i'm comfortable with it. i musta wore out a dozen daisy bb guns. dang, i wish i was a kid again. Lark. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That almost looks like a "serious" post! What I was wonderin' was how you got them .270 shells inta that ther 30-30. I have my dads old .300 Savage, and it's a fine gun, but I wish I didn't. I'd rather he had it and would come huntin' with me and the grand kids. Still, my favorite is my Winchester Model 97. Only gun I own that has shot out the radiator in a Model "T" Now what gun would I like to be able to pass down to my own kid? I guess I'll have to go buy a new gun or two so I have some to pass down. Bret C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEERSLAM Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Times have changed. Myself and my children have been fortunate to have had a father and grandad to pass down firearms. I wish my children were as enthused about them as I am. They have cell phones, and video games and all the things I hate. But they also have the outdoors. Buy those kids a new rifle, the most important thing in all sportsmans future is passing down a hunting heritage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said singleshot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted January 19, 2006 when my grandad pased, i inhertied many guns from him. most of them are off the wall guns that no one has heard of. i have a OLD savage 22 that RedRabbit has seen that i got from my grandad, a remington 721 .270 that, with 140 accubonds will shoot as good/ better than my CUSTOM made 270 wsm. the 721 is beat all to heck and has knicks and dings all over the place but it is probably my favorite gun! i also got a 30-30 that is so old it doesnt even say 30-30, it says 30 W.C.F. now, back to the topic, i think that any of the .284 caliber guns are the best guns for deer. sorry lark. but they produce more velocity with higher energy than thet .277 and shoot a bigger bullet. that being said, i have a 7mag and my dad has a 7 ultra mag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ernesto C Report post Posted January 19, 2006 Let me go back to the original question............................I know exactly the rifle you described that you want: ligth weigth,super ligth recoil and innexpensive. It weigts about 5 to 6 punds, it is a 270 caliber but it feels like if you are shoting a 222 and it cost $240.00 dlls at Wally World. The brand??.................Mossberg. I had the opportunity to try two different calibers............the 30-06 and the 270 and let me tell you, my Remington 243 kicks a lot harder that those two put together and not only that.........................I could not believe how accurate they were; half inch groups at 100 yards!! Amazing but true!!! I'm thinking to buy one.........................but I also like the 257 Wby Mag. what I dont like about the 257 is the price of the ammo. Hope this help and God bless. Ernesto C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEERSLAM Report post Posted January 19, 2006 Mossberg. Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bchoitz Report post Posted January 19, 2006 Mossberg? I Can't find it on the Wal-mart website, but they do show a "braztech"? Theyare break action single shot and come in youth models, .223, .243, .308, .270, and .30-06 weight for youth model is 6.25 lbs. Cost $165.00 Wally world also has NEF "Handi-rifles" from $200 to $250, youth models etc.. Never shot either, but I have used an NEF single shot shotgun before. Bret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted January 19, 2006 I like the NEF youth models. Drilled and tapped, short length of pull, the tupperware stock I could do without, but all in all a great value. My Dad who is very knowledgable of firearms recently told me about the Mossbergs you mentioned at Wally's. Felt they were a great firearm for the money. He didn't like the box magazine or the tupperware stock but the reviews have been excellent. He reccomended I buy one for my daughter in .243. She currently shoots a 7.7x58 Jap. She is 12 years old and 85 pounds. We load it light for targets but she shoots full power loads for elk. In the heat of the moment recoil isn't noticed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
