wardsoutfitters Report post Posted June 25, 2011 I wanted to let everyone her know what I have been hearing , From what I understand the Forest service is wanting to close all areas affected by the fires in Az for a period of a year, This includes units 1, 27, 29, 35a, 36b. The commission is having a live meeting today at 2 and have added this matter to their agenda. I would strongly suggest you attend if you can or watch the meeting online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couesobsession Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Talk about a crappy situation. if this goes through there will be some real heat from the hunters. I feel bad about saying it, but I'm glad I put in for 32 this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 STEP RIGHT UP FOLKS, COMING SOON TO A FOREST NEAR YOU. THEY WALK, THEY TALK, THEY'RE ALMOST HUMAN. THAT'S RIGHT LADIES AND GENTS, IT'S THE FOREST CIRCUS. GET YOUR TICKETS NOW! YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS THIS. CLOWNS, MENTAL MIDGETS, GEEKS, MORONS OF EVERY DEGREE. SEE THE BEARDED WOMEN, HAVE SOMEONE GUESS YOUR WEIGHT AND THEN TELL YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD BELIEVE. SEE THE MAGICIAN PULL A MANAGEMENT PLAN OUT OF A HAT. WELL, HOPEFULLY A HAT. THEY'VE BEEN PULLING THEM OUT OF SOME OTHER ORIFICE LATELY. SEE THE ENDANGERED WOLVES DO TRICKS FOR ALPO. WATCH THE OTHER ANIMALS RUN FOR THEIR LIVES FROM THE FLAMES. BE THERE, BE THERE, BE THERE. yup, the hits just keep on happenin'. why shut it down for a year? the goal is to shut it down forever. Lark. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcharchery Report post Posted June 25, 2011 I believe the Forest Circus has already had way to much influence. The Horseshoe2 fire didn't need to be so big and devastating. They kept on setting it on fire!! Shouldn't the forest service, at least the Douglas district, go away now? The forest is burned up. What exactly are they going to do now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 25, 2011 The Forest Closure order already states that the forest will be closed until Dec. 31st 2011. It is online on their web page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wardsoutfitters Report post Posted June 25, 2011 I believe the Forest Circus has already had way to much influence. The Horseshoe2 fire didn't need to be so big and devastating. They kept on setting it on fire!! Shouldn't the forest service, at least the Douglas district, go away now? The forest is burned up. What exactly are they going to do now? I totally agree . They back burned over 50,ooo acers that other wise would have not burned , and this is only the stuff I know about. I was told one day that they had the fire contained in turkey creek , cotton wood but were going to back burn 35,000 acres all the way across to rucker, what a bunch of bull shoot! someone needs to be held resoponsible for this!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcharchery Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Looks like they are in executive session now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted June 25, 2011 I really doubt the USFS will close all the burned areas during hunting season. That would be a bit crazy, even for the USFS. According to the AGFD presentation, the fire severity of the Wallow Fire has been relatively low in lots of unit 1 and 27. The USFS doesn't even close areas to hunting during their prescribed burns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 25, 2011 If you remember the Aspen fire in unit 33 a few years ago, all burn areas were closed to entry for over a year. Fortunatley, that fire didnt burn the entire unit, and there were places to still hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Don't know about unit 27, but nearly half of unit one's elk country was not even in the Wallow Fire's path. Also, there apparently are a great many areas within the fire's perimeters that the fire skipped. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Report post Posted June 26, 2011 Don't know about unit 27, but nearly half of unit one's elk country was not even in the Wallow Fire's path. Also, there apparently are a great many areas within the fire's perimeters that the fire skipped. Bill Quimby Exactly! I've got the unit 1 hunt this year, and there's no doubt it will still be a great hunt - if the feds don't screw it up for us. This really chaps my hide. They were the ones who reacted too slowly to beging with and let a small fire turn into a HUGE fire, now they want to over-react when it's too late to do any good. Typical knee-jerk big-government B.S. Tell you what, if they close the forest and G&F says too bad to tag holders, I'll probably take my chances with the forest circus and just go hunt. I wonder where AZG&F will stand if you have a valid tag, but the feds say you can't even access the areas that weren't affected by the fires. The whole North half of unit 1 was untouched, and as others have pointed out, even the burned areas stil have tons of huntable country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted June 26, 2011 "Any violation of this prohibition is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000.00 for individuals, and $10,000.00 for organizations and/or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months. [Title 16 USC 551, Title 18 USC 3885, Title 18 USC 3571, Title 18 USC 3581]." If I had waited 10+ years for a elk tag, I would think the 6 months and $5000.00 was a relativley small amount, and take my chances! They gotta catch you before they can fine you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Codywhi Report post Posted June 26, 2011 +1 I'm with lance on this one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
200"mulie Report post Posted June 26, 2011 close em down....piss of the hunters...give the animals to recover.....they are going to get slaughtered in some areas....i played it smart and applied for other units..sorry for the rest of you if they do close it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singleshot Report post Posted June 26, 2011 close em down....piss of the hunters...give the animals to recover.....they are going to get slaughtered in some areas....i played it smart and applied for other units..sorry for the rest of you if they do close it..... Wow Nostradamus! Even before those units burned ( 1 and 27 ) you knew it was going to happen? What are tonights powerball numbers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
