AZorion Report post Posted June 16, 2011 I have switched to harvest time arrows, I shoot the HT-1 with a penetrator insert, the arrow weighs 375 grains without a tip. These arrows are basically the same as the victory arrow but much heavier, they pack a punch. I shoot a 29 in arrow with a 100 grain tip (475 total weight), 2.25 bohning shield cut vanes with skull wraps and this out penetrates the FMJ and flatlines that I shot before. I shoot a PSE AXE6 set at 67 pounds, 29 inch draw and get my HT-1 arrow coming out at 285FPS. I have not used them on any animals yet as I only received them 2 months ago. I ordered them from a guy on the web, he built them up for me and I can not wait to try them out, check them out on youtube! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ RANGER Report post Posted June 16, 2011 I have switched to harvest time arrows, I shoot the HT-1 with a penetrator insert, the arrow weighs 375 grains without a tip. These arrows are basically the same as the victory arrow but much heavier, they pack a punch. I shoot a 29 in arrow with a 100 grain tip (475 total weight), 2.25 bohning shield cut vanes with skull wraps and this out penetrates the FMJ and flatlines that I shot before. I shoot a PSE AXE6 set at 67 pounds, 29 inch draw and get my HT-1 arrow coming out at 285FPS. I have not used them on any animals yet as I only received them 2 months ago. I ordered them from a guy on the web, he built them up for me and I can not wait to try them out, check them out on youtube! Azorion, what is the spine strength on your arrow. I shoot a simular set up to you and was also thinking about the harvest time arrows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZorion Report post Posted June 16, 2011 AZ Ranger, I shoot a 350 spine with a straightness .003, with the custom wrap and fletchings they were about 130 shipped to my door for one dozen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azpredator@work Report post Posted June 18, 2011 it all depends on you kinetic energy sometimes heavier isnt always better you dont want a 400+ gr arrow only going 260fps i would rather have a 380gr going 290fps I agree speed is critical to kinetic energy, but you are not comparing apples to apples. Take your comparison of gr/in to fps(1.31). The 400 gr example arrow would actually be 450 gr not 400. Your 380 gr arrow @ 290 fps = 71ft/lb ke while the 450 gr arrow shot @ 260 = 68ft/lb ke. Each of these are much more than what is needed for a easy pass-thru on any elk. An exagerated point would be to compare getting shot with a 400 fps bb gun (copper bb)and then being shot with a 600 fps airsoft bb (plastic). Which would you prefer? Unless you are a glutten for pain you would prefer the 600 fps plastic bb as it has much less MOMENTUM. Heavier arrows will gather more momentum. Now, my speedy flatlines (i.e. plastic bb's) shoot 307 fps and weigh 338 gr which produce exactly the same ke as your example arrow of 380gr @ 290 fps. They are great for short range kills on deer or antelope with perfect shots, but I would never consider them an elk arrow. The best part of the weight vs speed argument is EVERYBODY is correct! You only need around 30ft/lbs of ke to easily pass thru a deer and kid's bow can produce that! 40 ft/lbs for elk and most of us are shooting 60+. Your arrows are great, my arrows are great, their arrows are great. Shoot what you have confidence in and hit the spot you aim at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhunter1 Report post Posted June 19, 2011 Very well put!!!!!!!! it all depends on you kinetic energy sometimes heavier isnt always better you dont want a 400+ gr arrow only going 260fps i would rather have a 380gr going 290fps I agree speed is critical to kinetic energy, but you are not comparing apples to apples. Take your comparison of gr/in to fps(1.31). The 400 gr example arrow would actually be 450 gr not 400. Your 380 gr arrow @ 290 fps = 71ft/lb ke while the 450 gr arrow shot @ 260 = 68ft/lb ke. Each of these are much more than what is needed for a easy pass-thru on any elk. An exagerated point would be to compare getting shot with a 400 fps bb gun (copper bb)and then being shot with a 600 fps airsoft bb (plastic). Which would you prefer? Unless you are a glutten for pain you would prefer the 600 fps plastic bb as it has much less MOMENTUM. Heavier arrows will gather more momentum. Now, my speedy flatlines (i.e. plastic bb's) shoot 307 fps and weigh 338 gr which produce exactly the same ke as your example arrow of 380gr @ 290 fps. They are great for short range kills on deer or antelope with perfect shots, but I would never consider them an elk arrow. The best part of the weight vs speed argument is EVERYBODY is correct! You only need around 30ft/lbs of ke to easily pass thru a deer and kid's bow can produce that! 40 ft/lbs for elk and most of us are shooting 60+. Your arrows are great, my arrows are great, their arrows are great. Shoot what you have confidence in and hit the spot you aim at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
