couesobsession Report post Posted June 9, 2011 Bill is you house on the east or west side of town? Wallow.us says the fire burned at least 6 structures on the east side of town but didn't make it to the west. I hope dearly your house wasn't burned. Comments also saty that the in formation that a 747 supertanker will be used is incorrect, and that they are actually getting a DC-10 supertanker. interesting stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ_XL7 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 i hope there burning out from greer to sunrise and towards reservation lake. Cause thats not good if its running that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted June 9, 2011 Thanks for the photos of Big Lake and the links and info, much appreciated. Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Rabbit Report post Posted June 9, 2011 i hope there burning out from greer to sunrise and towards reservation lake. Cause thats not good if its running that way. The fire was about 1.1 miles east of Reservation Lake this morning, so appears to be growing closer. The couple of fire spots west of the 273 just north of Sheeps Crossing do not bode well. The strong line of spots just southwest of Greer does not appear to follow a road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azrcks Report post Posted June 10, 2011 From inciweb.org The property damage has been assessed in the community of Greer. In total, 22 homes lost, 5 damaged, 24 out-buildings, and 1 vehicle. Apache County Sheriff's Officials are in the process of notifying the property owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYCE CANYON Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Here's a report I received early this morning. My cabin is west of Main Street -- Bill Quimby The following input came from the Greer fire department late Wednesday night: The situation AT THIS MOMENT seems to be better than previously reported in the media and elsewhere, but not as good as hoped for. While the Honeybee Lodge was left untouched in Paradise Mt some others in the area were burned. The fire department saved several houses in the neighborhood so the damage on Wonderland Road at the end was minimal. Heaven Scent came through okay. Don't yet know about the houses around the Butterfly Lodge Museum. Also some cabins on East Fork were damaged and the Peaks may have sustained some damage around the main building. The fellows at the fire department said that nothing on the West side of Main Street burned at this time. Molly's is okay, Sargent’s is okay. Not sure about Red Setter or the house at the end of the road next to Red Setter. One house on Ruhr was burned Also Crosby Acres seems to be spared. Of course there are many flames still active but there are also hundreds of fire fighters in town to save houses that are still facing problems. Don't yet know to what extent the damage is on the east side of the street. We are not out of the woods yet, due to spot fires and trees burning in and around the valley, but tomorrow the wind is supposed to be calming down so that is a big plus. Please understand that as unpredictable as this fire is, status may change, but hopefully the worst is over for Greer. Unfortunately the fire is not done and probably won't be until the rains come. Mr. Quimby I just got back from Greer. I do not know where your place is or I could have checked it. Most of the the homes that were destroyed were on East Fork Road east of the LCR. The number of homes destroyed is closer to the 22 that inciweb is now reporting. As always, the fire behavior was strange, one house would be destroyed and the next one was not touched. They were working the west side of town real hard. The DC-10 had made one drop and was returning for a second when I was there. Most of the fire activity was south and east. Coming in to Greer Red Setter Coming into Eager from Greer on 260 Backburn along 260 South Fork west of Eager Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian27 Report post Posted June 10, 2011 I was in camping near Lake Mary outside of flagstaff this past weekend with a group of dads. We had a great trip but me and another dad at the campout took the boys out to look for antlers. We found 3 elk sheds but when we got back one of the fires was smoking like a freight train. They had started a fire (over a tree stump) and thought that throwing dirt on it would put it out. Well they were wrong because I looked over a few minutes after we got back and the fire started the pine needles and saw dust from cutting the tree up on fire. I ran over and stomped it out but noticed that the wind was starting the ground dust to smolder all around it. If we didn’t come back when we did it could have been the 4th fire in Arizona right now. We went up to Ashurst lake and got 10 gallons of water and drowned the tree stump and area around it. Everyone please pour more water than is needed on it just in case. Make sure your fires are dead out. Killing the flame is not enough. You have to kill the heat. I am sure the wind was not blowing as bad when they left but they were still very irresponsible for not pouring the 5 gallons on it “that I knew they had”. It could have been very costly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
assassin Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Also hanaggan meadows lodge made it through the blaze you can thank assasin on this site for all those efforts for savin it hes my engine boss. I haven't read all the post's (too tired). What I can tell you is that i've been on this fire for 11 days now and I am emotionally taxed. Being born and raised here this is hard to watch. Yes the USFS is, and will be under fire. ( Feel free to sit at your keyboard and fire away) But the bottom line is that there are good people (locals) on the ground doing good work. All I am saying is the USFS is a huge agency and alot of good, well meaning folks get a paycheck from them. Overhead and management could use some work. We're given' er heck boys. As with every large company or agency there is the GOOD, the BAD, and, the UGLY.] Rest assured there are a lot of the good and a few of the ugly on the ground working to save as much of the White Mts as posible. e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Bryce Canyon: Thank you for the photos. Our cabin is just out of sight to the far right of your photo marked "coming into Greer." It's on the east side of the valley, on Badger Lane, which is over the knoll behind the Rendezvous Diner. If you're going back to Greer let me know. My wife is heartbroken that she left our wedding album behind when we evacuated, and this fire is far from over. Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjhunt2 Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Bill, Peg and I are just sick to our stomachs and hope and pray your cabin was one of the lucky ones. I feel so helpless and wish there was something I could do but unfortunately, like so many, we can only stand back and watch as this fire destroys where so many memories were made over the years. Our deepest sympathy for all the families that were and are in the path of this fire. It's no where near done and our prayers are with all the people working so hard to control this monster. One of our fondest memories of Greer is when Peg and I had the pleasure of haveing lunch with Bill and visit his beautiful cabin last year. Here is a picture I cherish dearly. This was taken at Bill's place after he signed a copy of his book "Sixty Years A Hunter" TJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Great photo TJ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billrquimby Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Thanks, TJ: Bill Quimby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeardownAZ Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Also hanaggan meadows lodge made it through the blaze you can thank assasin on this site for all those efforts for savin it hes my engine boss. I haven't read all the post's (too tired). What I can tell you is that i've been on this fire for 11 days now and I am emotionally taxed. Being born and raised here this is hard to watch. Yes the USFS is, and will be under fire. ( Feel free to sit at your keyboard and fire away) But the bottom line is that there are good people (locals) on the ground doing good work. All I am saying is the USFS is a huge agency and alot of good, well meaning folks get a paycheck from them. Overhead and management could use some work. We're given' er heck boys. As with every large company or agency there is the GOOD, the BAD, and, the UGLY.] Rest assured there are a lot of the good and a few of the ugly on the ground working to save as much of the White Mts as posible. e Anybody directing anger at you guys is wrong, management is a different story though. Good time to do some clearing out while this thing is going, but that seems to be happening with all the back buring going on, right?? Good luck, pictures that have come out so far seem alot more promising than I had figured. You guys must be doing very well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZ_XL7 Report post Posted June 10, 2011 That area up around sheeps crossing has to be a back burn. Good to see positive things happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
standman Report post Posted June 12, 2011 Posted: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:18 am | Updated: 10:52 am, Sun Jun 12, 2011. BREAKING: Going Home! - evacuation orders lifted for Round Valley residents As of Sunday, June 12 at 10 a.m., residents of the Springerville, Eagar and South Fork areas who were evacuated because of the massive Wallow Fire will be allowed to return to their homes. After consulting with fire officials, it has been determined that the fire risk has diminished enough that it will no longer be a threat to the citizens of the towns. But, it should be noted that the smoke from the wildfire still poses serious health hazards as has been outlined by Chris Sexton, Apache County health director, and the smoke problems may continue for weeks. Because of the health problems associated with smoke from the Wallow Fire, Apache County Public Health Services District and the Emergency Operations Center warns residents of Eagar and Springerville that it would be best not to return to their homes until the concentration of smoke diminishes. Air quality for Eagar and Springerville (Round Valley) has been in the “Unhealthy” to “Hazardous” range for the last few days. The elderly and very young and those with existing respiratory problems like emphysema and asthma face increased risk by exposure to tiny Particulate Matter 2.5 microns and if they return, they do so at their own risk knowing the hazards associated with possible health effects from wild fire smoke. Information about current smoke conditions can be accessed at http://www.phoenixvis.net/PPMmain.aspx. Symptoms from short-term exposure to smoke include scratchy throat, cough, irritated sinuses, headaches, runny nose and stinging eyes, and more serious reactions among those in high-risk groups. Elevated levels of PM also increase the potential for asthma attacks and other asthma-related symptoms in children. Air pollutants have been associated with increases in respiratory problems and diseases in children, including reduction of lung function and increased severity or frequency of asthma attacks. Air pollutants have also been associated with a number of other adverse health effects, including cancers and heart disease. People with health issues (heart or lung disease, COPD, emphysema or asthma) should only return if absolutely necessary. Residents dependent on oxygen should wait to return to their homes. Hospitals and medical resources are limited. The White Mountain Regional Medical Center is waiting for air quality to improve before opening to admit patients. Only the emergency room is open at this time. Anyone needing to be admitted will need to be transported to another hospital. NOTE: Highway 260 is closed at Greer. Alpine & Nutrioso is still under an evacuation notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites