Mr. Jonathan Report post Posted May 24, 2011 I was also going to ask about nylon vs. brass brushes, thanks for the tip! Mr. Jon- there is a great article on barrel break in on riflemansjournal. i have three rem 700 7mm mags. most important is to adjust the trigger, and mount a leup scope ; next is good ammo. :lol: Yeah ok, great article! Wow I am a sucker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 Yer, use nyloy brushes... Would you use a toothbrush, or a bbq brush to clean your car/truck? Lots of people think you dont need barrel break in... I am 50/50. I usually clean after every shot for the first 10, then after every 3 shot group for the next 5 groups. After that, its game on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted May 24, 2011 You sure as heck are not going to ruin a factory barrel with a bronze brush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rclouse79 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 I forgot if this has been on this site already or not, but you might want to check it out. After this break in procedure you can watch the guy fire the gun and it is dead on. The proof is in the pudding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted May 25, 2011 MR JON- German expects 1/2 min( 1/4 is more like it) maximum vertical dispersion out to 1000 yards with iron sights. i/we should listen very carefully to what he does and doesn't say. cleaning: get a tipton ot dewey rod and the appropriate jag/patches. get SC mc-7 and SC copper remover . follow directions on the bottle. clean every 15-30 rounds or when you change powders. break-in : follow German's procedure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted May 25, 2011 MR JON- German expects 1/2 min( 1/4 is more like it) maximum vertical dispersion out to 1000 yards with iron sights. i/we should listen very carefully to what he does and doesn't say. cleaning: get a tipton ot dewey rod and the appropriate jag/patches. get SC mc-7 and SC copper remover . follow directions on the bottle. clean every 15-30 rounds or when you change powders. break-in : follow German's procedure. Ronin ... is my browser screwed up? When I pull up his barrel break procedure "skipping no steps" is is blank all the way down to the last statement. I took that to mean he doesn't break the barrel in ... is that incorrect? Maybe I need to do an update or something??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted May 25, 2011 "omitting no steps" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted May 26, 2011 :lol: http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/my-smallest-3-shot-group-35175/index6.html start reading at comment #40 and make sure your read #45. Not only are TOP shooters and gunsmiths not breaking in barrels, they are cleaning their barrels every 200-300 shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted May 26, 2011 That is well and good but you cannot compare quality finished custom barrels to factory barrels. You can improve a factory barrel. It is very unlikely that you can improve a good custom barrel. Hence the reason several barrel makers and shooters dont break them in. On that note there are several top makers and shooters that do promote breaking in and cleaning more regularly. Who knows, maybe both ideas are meant to wear your barrel out faster so they can sell you another one. The truth likely lays in the middle somewhere. When it comes to factory tubes or re-bored and re-rifled barrels, breaking them in has a place for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjvcon Report post Posted May 26, 2011 :lol: http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f17/my-smallest-3-shot-group-35175/index6.html start reading at comment #40 and make sure your read #45. Not only are TOP shooters and gunsmiths not breaking in barrels, they are cleaning their barrels every 200-300 shots. I guess you gotta wonder when a guy like McMillan says that the manufacturers just want you to use up 10% of your barrel life on the break in ... Maybe I've been duped ... wouldn't be the first time. I do like the comment where the guy says to shoot until you see an accuracy fall off and then clean it. That makes a heck of a lot of sense. I will say that one of my buddies has a factory Ruger that he rarely, if ever, cleaned ... he couldn't get two down range anywhere close to each other until we cleaned the heck of of it, and after that it shot well for a bit before needing cleaned again. Kinda lends some creedance to that statement. 308Nut may be right though about the difference between a custom tube and a factory tube. The factory tube is a heck of a lot rougher to start with, and unless you send it off to be lapped, or do the lapping yourself, I'd think breaking it in would be beneficial. Sure couldn't hurt, right??? I mean a rougher barrel has to powder and copper foul a heck of a lot faster I'd think. In any case, the breaking procedure I followed sure didn't hurt the accurancy of my rifles any more than my poor aim ... Still like my nylon brushes over copper. The Old Timer who sold me on that made a similar point to the one firstcoueswas80 made about using a toothbrush or bbq brush to clean your car/truck. Basically that you let the chemical do the work and scrub with a brush that will aggitate the barrel but not scratch the crap out of it. Made a lot of sense when he said it, and seems pretty clear that metal on metal is a lot harsher than nylon on metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZJR Report post Posted June 11, 2011 Check out the current, or maybe just past, issue of Guns Magazine, it has a photo of the new Springfield 1911 Range Officer Pistol on the cover. There is an article by John Barsness about barrel break-in. Do a Google search on Mr. Barsness' writings and you will find a ton of useful, practical, & wide REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE concerning hunting rifles and hunting accuracy. Well worth the time investment IMO. Good Luck with your rifle and have fun shooting and hunting with it. Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
