Getting tougher to find wildlife managers

[billrquimby]

"That's a shame because single species groups aren't set up to do what AWF used to do. .... But recently there have been some encouraging signs. I'm watching to see whether hard-core hunters like TLH continue trying to shape AWF's direction. If he doesn't stomp off in disgust pretty soon, I'll have to take another look at that group. If AWF could return to being a statewide voice for hunters, a huge hole would get filled."

 

Larry:

 

I agree with everything you've said, especially about single species groups.

 

Arizona needs something similar to the old AGPA, a super strong association of ALL of Arizona's hunting, fishing and shooting clubs, with a full-time, personable and knowledgeable executive officer paid to grow membership, raise funds, and be our mouthpiece.

 

Anyone out there got $500,000-$750,000 or so for seed money?

 

LTH may say we already have this in the AWF but I'm afraid it has a long way to go to recover its former glory, in my opinion. I wish it well.

 

Its left turn, incidentally, began not long after its name change and AGFD's adoption of the permit-only hunting system, which AWF leaders opposed then supported. Neither may have been the cause, but the timing was the same.

 

BillQ

[TLH]

"That's a shame because single species groups aren't set up to do what AWF used to do. .... But recently there have been some encouraging signs.  I'm watching to see whether hard-core hunters like TLH continue trying to shape AWF's direction.  If he doesn't stomp off in disgust pretty soon, I'll have to take another look at that group.  If AWF could return to being a statewide voice for hunters, a huge hole would get filled."

 

Larry:

 

I agree with everything you've said, especially about single species groups.

 

Arizona needs something similar to the old AGPA, a super strong association of ALL of Arizona's hunting, fishing and shooting clubs, with a full-time, personable and knowledgeable executive officer paid to grow membership, raise funds, and be our mouthpiece.

 

Anyone out there got $500,000-$750,000 or so for seed money?

 

TLH may say we already have this in the AWF but I'm afraid it has a long way to go to recover its former glory, in my opinion. I wish it well.

 

Its left turn, incidentally, began not long after its name change and AGFD's adoption of the permit-only hunting system, which AWF leaders opposed then supported. Neither may have been the cause, but the timing was the same.

 

BillQ

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Bill, it will change to the way it used to be--we will have input from all sides of the world but the bottom line is that the AWF is and always will be a group who cares about the future of hunting and fishing in Arizona.

 

The new web site will have most of the hunting groups linked to it.

 

I won't get disgusted and i will stay in there and do what we all need to do.

[TLH]

TLH may say we already have this in the AWF but I'm afraid it has a long way to go to recover its former glory, in my opinion. I wish it well.

 

 

Bill, i never said we had it yet but we are working on it. In the mean time, there is a group that wants to be just as you said and that group is the Arizona Sportsman for Wildlife. This group has been silent lately but i think it will come back strong real soon. I think this group will be powerful and i think i will be a part of it but i will not dive in with both feet until i see how it goes.

 

We sure could use a group that is totally for the sportsman and woman in this state and i think the AWF could be that group, however, that said, the ASfW can give the state the extra boost that can help fight off many things that we have experienced as of late.

[billrquimby]

"I won't get disgusted and i will stay in there and do what we all need to do."

 

More power to you. Arizona's sportsmen need a loud and unified voice. We haven't had one for a long, long time.

 

BillQ