catclaw Report post Posted February 5, 2011 I set up this morning settled in, turned on the Foxpro and within 45 seconds I had a fox in. I really wasn't even ready, still positioning my dog. I threw the shotgun up and the rear sight was broken. Dang Truglos are fragile. I hesitated just long enough that the fox moved as I shot and I missed. It the very first time I have missed with my shotgun. I was horrified. Guess I will have to be readier tomorrow!! Dog is staying in the truck too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted February 5, 2011 Shotgun rear sight??? Dude who needs a sight on a shotgun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted February 5, 2011 I have never seen a shotgun that doesn't have sights??? What kind of a question is that? Now, there are a lot of shotguns without rear sights but pretty much anything new is going to have a rear bead as well as front bead. I have turkey sights on my gun because it shoots so tight. I have had no problems killing coyotes at 75 yds but this requires better sights than simply a front bead sight. There are myriad shotgun sights for turkey guns these days; red dot, fiber optic, dual beads and regular rifle sights. We'll see how it goes in the morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntingfool Report post Posted February 5, 2011 I have never seen a shotgun that doesn't have sights??? What kind of a question is that? Now, there are a lot of shotguns without rear sights but pretty much anything new is going to have a rear bead as well as front bead. No, not really. A single front bead is still very standard. You don't need a rear bead, just make sure you have the front bead where it needs to be. A whole lotta people have a whole lotta success with only one bead. I'd chalk this one up to excitement. It happens man, it's happened to me. It'll happen again, to both of us, rear bead or not. Better luck next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted February 5, 2011 Go buy a Benelli SBE and see how many sight beads it has! All the better shotguns have two beads these days. No excitement, just puzzled me when I didn't have a sight picture as I threw my shotgun up. A single front bead is OK for wing shooting but you will not find a single competitive clays or trap shooter with a single front bead these days. In any event, I don't have a front bead but rather a big fiber optic front sight. I just went to look through my peep and it wasn't there. That split second hesitation was all it took! I was bummed as I had a perfect track record up to that point with my shotgun. My ONLY other miss at a coyote was when I accidentally loaded a slug instead of a shotshell and didn't aim fine enough. That's when I switched to the Truglos. I am going to drill and tap it for a rail so I can put an Aimpoint on it when I get a chance. Went out this morning, took the 17 only. Didn't call anything in but woodpeckers!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted February 6, 2011 Are we talking wing shooting/trap shooting or predator shooting here........ My shotgun has a front bead and very few animals have had the bead on them and lived. Single bead works juuuussstttt fine for predators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted February 6, 2011 Only beginers or people that does not know how to shoot use rear sights! Ernesto C HAHHAHAHAHHAHA LOL just kidding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted February 6, 2011 rear sights? sounds like a French gun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catclaw Report post Posted March 6, 2011 rear sights? sounds like a French gun... You guys need to use something other than your quail guns... I have a dedicated predator rig. With a pattern as tight as mine shoots, I like having real sights, besides, I grew accustomed to real sights on a shotgun with my police shotgun which had rifle sights (for slugs I guess). Beads are great for shooting patterns but not so great for shooting real tight stuff. I put a different Tru-glo on it to get my through but I long for my aperture rear sight. Look at the custom tactical shotguns, turkey guns, deer hunting shotguns. Those guys have it figured out! Once you have seen the light, you will understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted March 6, 2011 I also use a shotgun w sights at work.... Have checked it out for duty carry exactly 1 time. Also, my 870 is a dedicated varmint rig. Side saddle, camo, extra tight choke, pistol grip, single bead sight. As stated, not many animals live when that single bead lands on them. Ask jake, he will tell ya! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weston Report post Posted March 6, 2011 When I call I use almost exclusivly a shotgun, with just the front bead, I've killed plenty of dogs at 75 yards, heck once me and casey killed a dog on a stand with our shotguns from atleast 75 and we both only had single beads, dont think that dog thought they wernt accurate. What about you casey? FWIW I shoot an extended super extra full turkey choke and havnt found a gun that patterns as tight past 50 as mine does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted March 6, 2011 Sights are for long range. We wont shoot predators at 200 + yards wiht a shotgun right? Sights are mainly for slugs or rifles and pistols; only one projectile coming out of the barrel and not 8, 12 or more bb's at the same time. So you are correct............#@%!& shotgun sights!! Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted March 6, 2011 When I call I use almost exclusivly a shotgun, with just the front bead, I've killed plenty of dogs at 75 yards, heck once me and casey killed a dog on a stand with our shotguns from atleast 75 and we both only had single beads, dont think that dog thought they wernt accurate. What about you casey? FWIW I shoot an extended super extra full turkey choke and havnt found a gun that patterns as tight past 50 as mine does. Weston, with that dog being double tapped and falling where she was... I dont think she had any sort of argument on how the sights worked! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntingfool Report post Posted March 14, 2011 I have a dedicated predator rig. With a pattern as tight as mine shoots, I like having real sights Just a friendly FYI, the pattern your choke tube throws is completely independent of your sights. That means your pattern doesn't correlate with the type of sight you have. Like at all. If you think a double bead helps you aim, have at it. It may help you get your bead down properly, but it isn't necessary. You can do it without a double bead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scooter Report post Posted December 8, 2011 I have a dedicated pred-slayer shotgun I named "Dead". It is/was a mossberg 835 that I put a m4 style butt stock on, a picatinny forend, Truglo fiber optic front bead and I REMOVED the rear bead that came standard on it because I hated it. I am 100% confident that anything out to 75 yards will die- hence why I named the shotgun "Dead". Aside from that, when I learned to shoot sporting and skeet clays (Junior Olympic/Scholastic Clays NSSF development program back in the 90's)... My coach removed our shotgun beads COMPLETELY so that we'd learn to get ON the barrel and not over it- as well as most people miss because they start the bead ON the target instead of sustained or swing-through lead. I still hunt birds without use of a bead reference and do just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
