firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted December 14, 2010 Clay, whats the last word in the bullet description..... MATCH. I would NOT use them for hunting. but isnt that what berger's hunting bullets are? if it has a hollow point it will still open up, right? See the highlighted area Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted December 14, 2010 Clay, whats the last word in the bullet description..... MATCH. I would NOT use them for hunting. but isnt that what berger's hunting bullets are? if it has a hollow point it will still open up, right? See the highlighted area well its there "hunting bullets" but they say match grade bullets, they just use them for hunting. but i would still think that if its a hollow point it should open up and work fine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted December 14, 2010 match grade hunting bullets and match bullets are two different things. open up and work fine and blowing up and not penetrating are two different things. Dont use a MATCH bullet for huntin gpurposes. Match GRADE bullets are two different things completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted December 14, 2010 How come they can't make a bonded bullet with a BC in .600+ ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted December 14, 2010 Ive never understood that either, but the Accubond, and Scirocco II both boast high BCs for bonded bullets. Both shoot well out of my .257 wby as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted December 14, 2010 they may wobble a bit when they exit the muzzle and 'settle down' later. This is not instability. When my dad was trying out some different bullet types and weights he had one particular bullet that had tighter groups at 300 than it did at 100 yards. Could this be an example of what you are talking about here?? It can be. To the best of my knowledge, the only proven fact about bullets shooting better at long range versus close range is due to the yaw of response and settling down affect. One thing is for sure, many 1000 yard benchrest shooter will ALWAYS tell you to develop your 1k BR load at 1K yards and NEVER test at 100 yards. They know all too well that some loads will be phenominal at 1K and very average at shorter range. I asked an old army shooting instructor why some loads or bullets were more accurate at longer ranges than shorter ranges. His thought was that a given bullet had an optimum RPM for top accuracy. When they slowed to lesser RPMs they settled down. He illustrated using a spiral bound notebook. Once the bullets settled down, the spiral got smaller. Is that true? I dont know but it seems possible. Again, the only proven fact is yaw of response. Sierra claims that some bullets are designed for 100-600 yard shooting and some are designed for 300-1000 yards shooting. Sierra use to publish in their manual (they may still, I dont know) what the optimum accuracy ranges were for given bullets. What makes a bullet in and of itself more accurate at longer ranges by design is a mystery to me but I am sure Sierra's tech line can help if youre curious. I have had load that shot great at 100 but sucked at 600. I have had some that shot great at 1K and sucked at 100 and I have had some that shot the excat same MOA value from 100 all the way to 1K. Why? I dont know. I have my theories but I am not a physicist so I will refrain from spreading possible un-truths. M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willhunt4coues Report post Posted December 14, 2010 match grade hunting bullets and match bullets are two different things. open up and work fine and blowing up and not penetrating are two different things. Dont use a MATCH bullet for huntin gpurposes. Match GRADE bullets are two different things completely. Thanks for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted December 14, 2010 deserthtn - what round are you shooting ? at what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willhunt4coues Report post Posted December 14, 2010 I am going to try and shoot a yote at 400 to 500 and see what it will do with the Federal Gold Metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted December 14, 2010 deserthtn - what round are you shooting ? at what? well i was shooting a 300 win mag, but the kick was too much for me so i sold it and bought a 257 roberts just yesterday actually. i wont be shooting those bullets out of it, probably accutips or something. and just at varmits and deer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken Wheels Report post Posted December 14, 2010 Guys, DesertHunter is a very nice, polite, well mannered young man and anything we can do to help him would be great! IMO he is the future of hunting as we older codgers get up in years and it was a pleasure meeting him yesterday! Thanks to all of you for being so informative! I have to lay down now cuz my grape is hurting as well from reading 308's information! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roninflag Report post Posted December 15, 2010 what kind of 257?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserthntr Report post Posted December 16, 2010 .257 Roberts and everyone Kirk takes care of his gear very well. the gun is in perfect condition and he knows his stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
