New setup

[coueshunter]

Guys, I used a huskemaw set up on my last hunt. 7mm with the Huskemaw scope that has yardage on the turrets. I am going to set up a gun/scope combo and want to know:

 

1. I currently own 2 different guns I need advice from you on whether either one will be sufficient or should I buy a 7mm

 

A. Model 70 chambered in .280 synthetic stock

B. Wthby 7mag wood stock

 

2. Scope: Do I need 20x or is 14x sufficient? I want the right scope to shoot out to 700yards.

A. What scopes/turrets have a good yardage indicator system?

 

Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.........Allen Taylor...............

[308Nut]

Size of your target? Are we talking coues bucks or elk?

[coueshunter]

Mule deer/elk

[Red Rabbit]

I can't see much ballistic difference between a 7 Rem Mag and the 7 WBY Mag. How does your WBY shoot? The 280 is not far behind.

Brake or no ear-break?

[oz31p]

I can't see much ballistic difference between a 7 Rem Mag and the 7 WBY Mag. How does your WBY shoot? The 280 is not far behind.

Brake or no ear-break?

 

+1

 

If you are planning on a 700y shot and you have a 20x scope, I can guarantee a once in a lifetime buck trys to sneek out of the canyon your in at 100y and its difficult to try to find hin in the scope/or turn down the zoom....ask me how I know.

[coueshunter]

mmI would really like to use the .280 would there be much of a disadvantage between it and a 7mm? I would prefer to not use the weatherby because of the wood stock. I just like the 280 better...Thoughts?..........AT.......

[DesertBull]

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek064.html

 

 

 

[sjvcon]

I think the ballistics of the 7mm Wby will be better (ever so slightly) than any other 7mm until you get to the STW and the RUM in that caliber. The .280 would be a little behind ... more as your ranges increase due to the lack of starting horsepower (.30-06 parent case so less powder ... though also less recoil which is important to some). The main difference will be cost of components for reloading and/or lack of factory ammo in the Wby caliber. The 7mm Remington Mag is still the most commercially available, and no doubt always will be as it is a very capable and popular round. That said, if you have a 7mm Wby or .280 I would not go out searching for something else in the .284 stable. The Wby is certainly a good platform for a long range shooter, and the .280 would be good too (out to a point).

 

Saw your ad for 7mm wanted ... you want it for ultra long range on mule deer and elk right? Better penetration and knock down at those ranges? If that is the case, personal opinion, I'd go with one of the .300 Magnums (Win, Wby, RUM or .30-378 Wby) or step up to a .338 Lapua or Edge (.338 in a .300 RUM case). What's the old saying on Hot Rods ... "There's no substitute for cubic inches..." In some respects, I think that goes for rifle rounds as well. In most (though NOT all) cases, I think you will have more retained energy downrange, and you will certainly have less worry with windage (higher mass available) ... and if you are using the ballistic turrets, then FLAT is not really as important, because you take the drop out of the equation. Not that there is anything wrong with a .284 ... fantastic caliber with great characteristics to be sure (and I own one) ... I just think if you are looking at shooting the bigger bodies at extreme ranges what you really want is retained energy for penetration and knock down. I'd use my 7mm all day at medium ranges as a first choice, but if I were thinking to really reach out, I'd grab my .300 RUM everytime. There is a trade in recoil to be sure, but muzzle breaks will deal with that (if you can stand the noise ... I just tolerate a little more hammering on my shoulder).

 

Just my two pennies ... and I am sure that there are those out there that would disagree ... certainly no disrespect to them, as everyone has an opinion, and you could probably talk to 20 "experts" (which I am certainly NOT) that would all have different takes on it.

 

Good luck.

[Broken Wheels]

Allen, we have already spoke in person about this but knowing your love affair with your 280 and wanting to use it I still think you will be fine with that weapon as a 600 yard slayer! Spend your money on good optics and do your own reloads and you will be fine! I am happy with the Vortex scope in a target dot reticle with their turrets which you also mentioned you wanted to go to on a scope, and you can get into a Vortex right now through Doug @ CamerLand for $249 and I think its $100 for the turrets afer you determine your set up. Now I am a rookie at these long distance rigs but after picking up TAM's 30-378 I am really stoked to get more educated and he is a good person to seak advice from as well. Good luck in what ever direction you go in and just remember your basics first and foremost and you will do just fine! Breath and "squeeze to please" brotha, squeeze to please!

[Red Rabbit]

Allen,

Based on the outer limits of what you have said, I think that you would need to have a cartridge capable of elk at 700 yards, meaning does it have the retained velocity for bullet expansion (1800-2000 fps) and enough energy (possibly using the fabled benchmark of 2000 FPE).

You can compare some numbers of various cartridges out to 500 yards on the Federal site http://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx

You are likely looking at the ilk of a 338 RUM (or Lapua, Edge) to best get the needed V&E, based on paper ballistics. But then you would also be looking at a heavier rifle and a muzzle brake.

Looks like a 300RUM would give you the vel with a good 30cal bullet, but with a little less than 2000FPE @700yds.

 

Then you can spend almost an eternity looking through LRH http://www.longrangehunting.com/

 

Are you handloading or going to use factory ammo?

[roninflag]

i like a scope with a top end of 20X. leupold is a good one.

[.270]

get a .270 and forget all that other junk. Lark.

[king4wd]

get a .270 and forget all that other junk. Lark.

 

+1

 

[travist1]

there is no scope that has good yardage turrets but if you have the money buy a front focal plane scope and if you want to use turrets figure out your load then go to the range and get the data for the scope and the round you choose if you get familiar with a mrad or moa scope you can adjust by memory

 

7mag is an awesome round

[sjvcon]

get a .270 and forget all that other junk. Lark.

 

You wouldn't happen to have a preference for this round, would ya Lark???

 

The .270 Winchester is definitely a great round, but is it much different in performance than his .280 Remington? I've never compared the two.