Hunting and Fishing

[archerycrazy]

I forgot to list the most important article of the constitution. That would be: Article 22 Section 21: "The Legislature shall enact all necessary laws to carry into effect the provisions of this Constitution."

 

Do you have bumper stickers? Do the businesses in your area have bumper stickers. If you need help contact me.

[muskrat]

This was on AzCentral.com yesterday, and judging by the comments it will be interesting to see if this passes. Even some of the comments by (supposed) hunters are way out there...

 

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/aze...s.html#comments

[tjhunt2]

Boy am I glad to see this post. My neighbor stopped by yesterday and asked me what I thought about prop. 109. I didn't have an answer for him. I do now and will swing by his house to let him know how I stand on this one. It's a yes vote for me. Thanks for all the great information on this subject.

 

TJ

[oz31p]

the comments at the bottom of the azcentral page are a little crazy. kinda scary that those are the people that are voting on every thing else too.

[TrentSwanson]

WOW! Thanks for posting that link to azcentral. There is a TON of misinformation out there. I'm thankful that we have a forum like this to spread the truth... THANKS AMANDA!!!

 

TJ, thanks for the support, and for reaching out to your friends and neighbors!

 

VOTE YES ON PROP 109

[Heat]

NEWS CONFERENCE, MONDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 11 A.M. CAPITOL MALL, NORTH OF SENATE CHAMBERS

 

(1700 W. WASHINGTON, PHOENIX)

 

Arizona Game & Fish Commissioners Woodhouse, Husted and Harris form Campaign Committee to support Prop 109 and Respond to Misinformation Being Disseminated to the Public

 

PHOENIX--Opponents to Prop 109, are saying that “it is a power grab by Politicians to take away the rights of Arizona Voters and the Arizona Game & Fish Commission to determine wildlife policy in the state” and “that the right to hunt will trump the use of sound science to establish wildlife management decisions”. Robbie Woodhouse, current Vice Chairman of the Arizona Game & Fish Commission, fellow Game & Fish Commissioners, Jack Husted of Springerville and John Harris of Sahuarita, announce Monday the formation of “Support the Arizona Game & Fish Commission by supporting Prop 109”Campaign Committee. Commissioner Husted stated “the objective of forming the committee is to make sure the public has accurate information on Prop 109 because there is a lot of misinformation being disseminated by the press and groups opposed to Prop 109 including the above comments taken from their opposition ballot arguments.”

 

Commissioner Husted spent an hour last week with Arizona Daily Star reporter Tony Davis and was disappointed to see the Star’s editorial Monday asking the Public to Vote No on Prop 109. When asked, Davis said his opinion was not requested prior to the editorial being published. “This comes as a surprise to most of us,” said Husted “as Mr. Davis writes many articles on wildlife-related issues for the Star. It is very disappointing to see the Star’s outright bias. We have no recourse except to form the Committee and set the record straight.”

 

The Arizona Game & Fish Commission worked closely with the National Rifle Association as the language for HCR 2008 (now Prop 109) was being drafted and the Commission also voted to support the bill during the 2010 legislative session. “We were involved because we wanted to make sure the mission, role and responsibility of the Department and Commission were not compromised,” said Woodhouse. Click here for link to commission position on HCR 2008.

 

“The Commission would not have supported Prop 109 if it compromised or otherwise limited the current wildlife management role played by the Game & Fish Commission” Woodhouse added. “We believe it actually provides a stronger foundation for the role of the Commission because with the passage of Prop 109 the Commission will be formalized in the state’s Constitution.”

 

Commissioner Husted explained “The Provisions of Article 4, Section 1 of the Arizona Constitution and Title 17 of the Arizona Revised Statutes (ARS) are very clear. The Constitution vests the authority to make laws with the legislature, which consists of a senate and a house of representatives. The Legislature has given the Arizona Game & Fish Department the power to administer the laws relating to wildlife and the Legislature of its own free choice further vested the Arizona Game & Fish Commission with the responsibility to control the Game & Fish Department.”

 

Commissioners Woodhouse, Husted and Harris agree that the Constitution and ARS Title 17 provide the framework for the governance of game and fish issues today and Prop 109 will do nothing to change this framework when passed by the voters.

 

Commissioner Woodhouse reaffirmed that, “The Game & Fish Commission will continue to base its wildlife management decisions on scientific findings and science will not take a back seat to hunting and fishing or politics as suggested by the opponents of Prop 109.”

 

Consistent with the North American Model of Wildlife Management, the Arizona Game & Fish Commission uses hunting and fishing as the primary means of controlling and managing wildlife today as does every other Game & Fish Agency throughout the United States. The Commissioners agree that, “the requirement for hunting and fishing to be the preferred means of managing wildlife changes nothing as Prop 109 further requires that future laws and rules ‘shall have the purpose of wildlife conservation and management’.”

 

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Contacts: Commissioner Robbie Woodhouse @ 928-941-1700 or hrking00@aol.com and Commissioner Jack Husted @ 928-245-0885 or jhusted@frontiernet.net or Carole V. Bartholomeaux, 602.404.8018 or Carole@b-pr.com Day of News Conference, 602.628.2666

 

 

[TrentSwanson]

Nick, you beat me to it. Nice Work!

 

Hope some of you Phoenix guys can make the news conference on Monday afternoon...

[loco4coues]

the comments at the bottom of the azcentral page are a little crazy. kinda scary that those are the people that are voting on every thing else too.

 

+1

[archerycrazy]

Visit this great new website www.commissionersyeson109.com

 

Take a look at the list of supporters. There is also a way to contribute to the campaign.

 

This Wednesday, October 20, Commissioners Husted and Woodhouse along with representatives of the NRA and possibly Senator McCain, will hold a news conference in the majority caucus room at 10:30 AM. Attend if you can.

 

This past week the HSUS contributed $250,000.00 to the effort to defeat Propostion 109. They get all of the free liberal press that they could want but they are spending money on it too.

If we do not defeat them now, we will be working and paying to protect our heritage every time they see a weak point. There are Hunting Rights measure on the ballots of Arkansas, South Carolina and Tennessee in addition to our effort here in Arizona. HSUS has focused solely on Arizona. They think we are weak It's time to prove them wrong once and for all.

 

If each of us could convince 10 non hunters to support us and each of those 10 talk to 10 more we could really get this on a roll to victory on November 2nd.

[archerycrazy]

INFORM OR INFLUENCE

What is the responsibility of the media?

I personally believe that the sole responsibility of the media is to inform the public. The media has absolutely no responsibility to influence the public. As far as I’m concerned the media has a responsibility to present all of the facts available. I think that the intent of our founders was to ensure that the media would always have the ability to publish the facts and let the public decide. Over the decades that intent has evolved. Now the media believes that they are free to provide limited facts and then inject opinion without providing an opposing view.

The recent editorial in the Yuma Sun “Hunting, fishing already supported by most Arizonans” is basically factual. However, they fail to note that the Legislature already has authority to establish wildlife management laws. The Sun does not explain that the Legislature has granted the rule and regulation making authority to the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. That would not change since “A Game and Fish Commission” would then be part of the Constitution.

The Sun also noted that “The proposition also states that hunting and fishing are the preferred ways of managing and controlling wildlife”. They fail to note that in the North American Wildlife Conservation Model, Hunting and Fishing are the preferred means of managing wildlife.

The Sun does not explain why hunting and fishing would be the preferred means of managing wildlife. The reasons are simple. Wildlife managers can sell licenses and tags to hunters and anglers. Hunter and anglers control wildlife populations. Hunters and anglers provide over 70 percent of the funding required to maintain the habitat in which our wildlife survive. Hunter and anglers also provide the vast majority of volunteer labor on wildlife habitat enhancement projects. Without hunting and fishing other methods of wildlife population control would be required. All of the alternatives would require expenditure of funds that wouldn’t be there if hunting and fishing were restricted or eliminated.

Another quote from the editorial: …”we do not support the idea of trying to “rope off” them off from full political participation by all citizens who may or may not support these activities”. I do not see anywhere that the proposed amendment prevents any citizen opposing or supporting hunting and fishing. Let me attempt to explain what the passage would do. Only a simple majority is required for passage. If Proposition 109 is passed, it would become part of the Arizona Constitution. Therefore, as part of the Constitution, it would require two thirds of the voters to override. Even the Legislature would be required to meet that standard. If Proposition 109 is passed any initiative from the people or referendum from the Legislature would require the approval of two thirds of the voters. This standard would simply require voters to examine a proposed initiative or referendum a little closer before making a decision

 

[standman]

I know quite a few sportsman that have already mailed in their ballots and they voted no!! Asked why, they said that they agreed with what was being said on the ads on tv. I asked them if they actually did any research themselves on the prop or even asked other sportsman what they thought about it and they said no, they though the ads on tv gave them a good enough reason to vote no. So this is the kind of stuff we are battling. I have been talking it up to everyone on come in contact with, with as much information I can give them to vote yes.

 

Brian

 

[Coues&Bass]

Boycott the AZ Republic for running that add. They must be owned/run by some liberal whackos.

[maximus]

Already voted, but yesterday i was reading the prop and the wording is really complicated, i voted yes but now i'm not to sure, what if all liberals legislators get elected and change the legislation?

just my toughts.

[TrentSwanson]

maximus,

 

Thanks for voting YES. You did just as every other sportsmen should.

 

Here's the simple answer... this doesn't change anything about how the legislature currently overseees G&F.

 

If you read Outdoor Writer's posts above, he expalins it quite nicely.

 

This will make it harder for animal rights groups to pass laws via the ballot box, but it doesn't change anything about the legislature. The legislature already has the power to make laws regarding wildlife.

 

Don't believe the lies spouted off by our opponents!

 

VOTE YES ON PROP 109!!!

[CouesWhitetail]

Get out and VOTE today!!!