REDFIELD11 Report post Posted September 18, 2010 Has anyone had much success howling for yotes? I am new to predator calling, but have called in a few yotes and fox with the primos calls. I have heard some people prefer to start their stand with howling before they go into distress calls. I have had some come in but pull up, sit down and bark, never to come in very close. I like the challenge of using hand calls vs. electronic. I usually go solo as well, looking for any advice on howling or any other preferred hand calls and tactics on calling alone. Any advice would be much appreciated for the new guy. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted September 18, 2010 REDFIELD11, Howling does work but you have to choose the right howling. I personally try to avoid the "challenge howl" in my opinion that scares more coyots that the ones that really come up to the call. I personally use the "howling" to locate coyots not to bring them in to the call; don't get me wrong, they do come to the howl but I just don't like to be howling for 10 to 15 minutes on the same spot. If you want to have more success harvesting coyots this is my sugestion: Go out at night drive your truck on areas you think coyots will be. Turn off your engine walk a few steps away from your truck and do a couple of barks and a long howl with your hand call (or electronic call). If a coyote answers your call you know where to be first thing in the morning. Drive and stop every 2 miles or so and keep doing this howls. Mark the spots where you get a respond to your howls cause that were the following morning you'll be doing your calls. During the monts of Late December and early February try the "female invitation" howl. I have succes year round with the "coyote greeting howl" Summer months you must try the "pup in distress call" coyots will come to the rescue of their pups. I really like the "coyote greeting howls" followed by the jack rabbit in distress call. REDFIELD, this is what has worked out for me and it is my personal opinion. We have great coyot callers here in the forum and I'm sure they will have some more suggestions. Good luck and aim for the vitals, take care. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted September 20, 2010 i usually always howl before i call. i don't know anything about different coyote sounds, i just hack on a diaphram elk call real loud and make it sound like a coyote. i do that for maybe 15 seconds or so and then start calling. works very well early in the morning. once while we were quail hunting i was up knockin' around camp before the sun was up and i started hackin' on my call (i use it for a quail call too) to wake everbody up and some dogs started yelping real close. i was barefoot and had to stumble to the truck to get my 223 and hacked again and 2 of em came outta the greasewood a hunnerd or so yards away. got em both while i was barefoot and everbody else was trying to figger out what was goin' on. i really like to howl. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted September 20, 2010 i have howled them up mid day. i almost always start with a howl. check out Randy Anderson's Calling all coyotes video. very informative. the howl they call "the interigation howl" is a long drawn out howl maybe throw in a bark at the end or in between howls that will get them fired up! they sometimes come in silent though! if youi buy 1 of Randy Anderson's howlers it comes with a cd and he talks all about coyote vocalizations. the challenge howl works real well if you here a big male in the bunch. remember if they here you, see you, or smell you they will not come. good luck to ya! james Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngbuck Report post Posted September 20, 2010 Its always a good locator, for turkeys as well as yotes. Ive only had it call in dogs a few times, but it will let you know where they are. The ones Dan Thompson makes are pretty good. Those are the hand howlers I prefer, as well as his distress calls too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted September 21, 2010 so who is the guy that writ the coyote to english dictionary anyway? how do ya know what they're sayin'? this is plum funny. i just yip a little to let em know where i am. sometimes they answer, sometimes they don't. but if there is one in the area, it seems to get em headed my way and when i crank up the ol' circe, it seems to work better. i have had it bring em right in too, quite few times. once i took my .300 callin' and howled for about 5 ot 10 seconds, real early, and had dogs flying in from all directions. i shot 4 times and got 4 dogs. surprised the heck out of em. none of em wear together, but they ended up in the same place. seems to me if i hack on my elk call, i call in more dogs. and it seems like they keep coming harder and aren't as wary. especially if more than on answers. they try to beat the other guy there and don't pay a much attention. Lark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDFIELD11 Report post Posted September 21, 2010 Thanks fellas, I appreciate all the advice. I will try it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted September 21, 2010 so who is the guy that writ the coyote to english dictionary anyway? how do ya know what they're sayin'? this is plum funny. i just yip a little to let em know where i am. sometimes they answer, sometimes they don't. but if there is one in the area, it seems to get em headed my way and when i crank up the ol' circe, it seems to work better. i have had it bring em right in too, quite few times. once i took my .300 callin' and howled for about 5 ot 10 seconds, real early, and had dogs flying in from all directions. i shot 4 times and got 4 dogs. surprised the heck out of em. none of em wear together, but they ended up in the same place. seems to me if i hack on my elk call, i call in more dogs. and it seems like they keep coming harder and aren't as wary. especially if more than on answers. they try to beat the other guy there and don't pay a much attention. Lark. i know it may sound funny but they really do use certain types of howls and barks. for instance during the mating season the females that haven't paired up will give what they call a female invitation howl when they are ready to mate. also big males will challenge howl back at you when you sneak into his livingroom and howl. you can plainly hear the difference in the types of howls. group howls challenge howls female invitation howls lone howls kinda like a deer can grunt or snort wheeze or bleat. i've heard female elk bark similar to a dog when i was too close to her calf. imo the more you make the environment you call realistic the better your chances are. i'm not an expert but have read and studdied the coyote a whole lot. james Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
REDFIELD11 Report post Posted September 21, 2010 James, That makes sense. Before I would either hear them howl in groups while I was out and would just howl back. Hardly ever would I get a reply. In some of the Primos videos Randy Anderson made it seem like he would just blow a bunch of howls and they would come runnin. The only response I ever got was a challenge howl, and we went back and forth for about 5 mins before he took off, never giving me a shot. I guess knowing when to use what type of howl (time of year), not over calling, and having some strategy beats just blowing on every call you got. (I hear alot the more sounds you can throw at them the better; but also there are those who tell me to use strictly distress). I just figured adding howling to the arsenal could only make your chances of success go up, however seemed like I was doing a lot of howling and not much shooting. Thanks for the info and I look forward to the challenge of using the right howls in combo with other calls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites