Government Ban on Bullets (lead)!

[jdub]

This came out today. Unsettling.

 

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-review...ban-led-bullets

[youngbuck]

I cant see this happening anytime soon, but Ive been wrong before. I dont see how people are concerned with lead poisoning from hunting. How many ounces of lead are put into the field each year by rifle hunters? Now how about target shooting, range or clays or what ever besides hunting? Who knows what will happen. I cant imagine the Fed spending money for non lead ammo for practice and battle. Well actually they could easily just spend away some more of our money.

[oz31p]

What good is a firearm with out ammo. This is the same way liberals do every thing......one piece at a time.

[MangeyJoe]

That doesn't surprize me. This website claims that ammo for hunting could cost upwards to $55. That is rediculous!!! I agree with oz31p " what good is a firearm with out ammo!!!

[youngbuck]

55$ aint bad for hunting ammo. My ammo, if I'd buy it from the store, would cost around $70/20rds. Id pay that too, a long as it was lead. Lead works, and works well. I would be a pain in the arse for me, others and mostly ammo manufacures if klead was banned. There would need to be a lot of R&D if lead was banned. What are the guys gonna do who dont like hypermagnums? If lead is banned Im sure something else will kill condors too...

[iBowAZ]

 

There are some brands which offer non-lead rounds. Has anyone tried them out?

[DesertBull]

There are some brands which offer non-lead rounds. Has anyone tried them out?

 

 

They suck

[Outdoor Writer]

EPA Considering Ban on Traditional Ammunition: ACT NOW!

All Gun Owners, Hunters and Shooters:

With the fall hunting season fast approaching, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under Lisa Jackson, who was responsible for banning bear hunting in New Jersey, is now considering a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) - a leading anti-hunting organization - to ban all traditional ammunition under the Toxic Substance Control Act of 1976, a law in which Congress expressly exempted ammunition. If the EPA approves the petition, the result will be a total ban on all ammunition containing lead-core components, including hunting and target-shooting rounds. The EPA must decide to accept or reject this petition by November 1, 2010, the day before the midterm elections.

Today, the EPA has opened to public comment the CBD petition. The comment period ends on October 31, 2010.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) -- the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry -- urges you to submit comment to the EPA opposing any ban on traditional ammunition. Remember, your right to choose the ammunition you hunt and shoot with is at stake.

The EPA has published the petition and relevant supplemental information as Docket ID: EPA-HQ-OPPT-2010-0681. If you would like to read the original petition and see the contents of this docket folder, please click here. In order to go directly to the 'submit a comment' page for this docket number, please click here.

NSSF urges you to stress the following in your opposition:

There is no scientific evidence that the use of traditional ammunition is having an adverse impact on wildlife populations.
Wildlife management is the proper jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services and the 50 state wildlife agencies.
A 2008 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on blood lead levels of North Dakota hunters confirmed that consuming game harvested with traditional ammunition does not pose a human health risk.
A ban on traditional ammunition would have a negative impact on wildlife conservation. The federal excise tax that manufacturers pay on the sale of the ammunition (11 percent) is a primary source of wildlife conservation funding. The bald eagle's recovery, considered to be a great conservation success story, was made possible and funded by hunters using traditional ammunition - the very ammunition organizations like the CBD are now demonizing.


Recent statistics from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service show that from 1981 to 2006 the number of breeding pairs of bald eagles in the United States increased 724 percent. And much like the bald eagle, raptor populations throughout the United States are soaring.
Steps to take:


1. Submit comment online to the EPA.

2.Contact Lisa Jackson directly to voice your opposition to the ban:

Lisa P. Jackson
Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
1200 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20460
(202) 564-4700
Fax: (202) 501-1450
Email: jackson.lisa@epa.gov


3. Contact your congressman and senators and urge them to stop the EPA from banning ammunition. To view a sample letter, click here.

[.270]

plan on it. and once again, anyone who voted for obama needs to slug theirself in the face every morning. if you can't do it, get someone who didn't to do it for you. the next thing you can count on, write it down, is they will make some neccessary ingredient to either powder or primers illegal also. they'll say the mercury in primers or one of the ingredients in powder are some sort of hazardous waste. again, mark it down. folks really don't understand what happened when obama got elected. him and all his lackeys are communists and they won't quit unitl America is dead. these guys have more $h!t on their agenda than you can even imagine. Lark.

[oz31p]

Its not that they want us to move to nonlead bullets they want us to move toward no bullets.

 

 

270

I don't think a good slug would do the trick, but mabey we could test out some lead bullets?

[MangeyJoe]

I HATE OBAMA and his stupid administration!!!

[cw4192]

+100 lark, obama is a tool for muslim way's, as you can see mexicns are now doing car bombs and suicide bombs and using the same tacticts as taliban. Stand by America it is coming and they want to dis-arm US before it happen's. So stock up on Ammo and wait for them. They are sitting in Mexico and training and watching until the moment is right.

[Outdoor Writer]

EPA Denies Petition Calling for Lead Ammunition Ban

 

Release date: 08/27/2010

 

Contact Information: Brendan Gilfillan gilfillan.brendan@epa.gov

 

 

 

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency today denied a petition calling for a ban on the production and distribution of lead hunting ammunition. EPA sent a letter to the petitioners explaining the rejection – that letter can be found here: http://www.epa.gov/oppt/chemtest/pubs/sect21.html

 

Steve Owens, EPA assistant administrator for the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention, issued the following statement on the agency’s decision:

 

“EPA today denied a petition submitted by several outside groups for the agency to implement a ban on the production and distribution of lead hunting ammunition. EPA reached this decision because the agency does not have the legal authority to regulate this type of product under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) – nor is the agency seeking such authority.

 

“This petition, which was submitted to EPA at the beginning of this month, is one of hundreds of petitions submitted to EPA by outside groups each year. This petition was filed under TSCA, which requires the agency to review and respond within 90 days.

 

“EPA is taking action on many fronts to address major sources of lead in our society, such as eliminating childhood exposures to lead; however, EPA was not and is not considering taking action on whether the lead content in hunting ammunition poses an undue threat to wildlife.

 

“As there are no similar jurisdictional issues relating to the agency's authority over fishing sinkers, EPA – as required by law – will continue formally reviewing a second part the petition related to lead fishing sinkers.

 

“Those wishing to comment specifically on the fishing tackle issue can do so by visiting http://www.regulations.gov. EPA will consider comments that are submitted by September 15.”

 

 

[firstcoueswas80]

Not gonna disagree, Obama has his priorities seriously out of whack and is terrible but TSX and TTSX bullets work. BUT I wouldnt want to be FORCED to use them. I want them as an option, not a mandate.

[Outdoor Writer]

Just to keep things factual (I know, I know, why bother when it makes for good conspiracy theories?), neither Obama or anyone in his administration had anything to do with requesting the lead ammo ban. In fact, it was his administration that DENIED the petition.

 

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Administrator Lisa P. Jackson August 3, 2010

Environmental Protection Agency

 

USEPA Headquarters Ariel Rios Building 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, N. W. Mail Code: 1101A Washington, DC 20460

 

Dear Administrator Jackson:

 

As provided in the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), Petitioners American Bird Conservancy, Association of Avian Veterinarians, Center for Biological Diversity, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, and Project Gutpile request that the EPA adopt regulations prohibiting the manufacture, processing, and distribution in commerce of lead shot, lead bullets, lead fishing sinkers, and other lead‐containing fishing gear, pursuant to TSCA (15 U.S.C. § 2605(a)(2)(A)(i)). Such regulations are needed to protect vulnerable wildlife species from the ongoing threat of lead poisoning, as well as to safeguard human health.

 

TSCA mandates that the EPA must regulate chemical substances where there is a "reasonable basis to conclude" that such substances "present an unreasonable risk of injury to health and or the environment" (15 U.S.C. § 2605(a)). TSCA authorizes the EPA to prohibit “the manufacturing, processing, or distribution in commerce” of a chemical substance for a particular use or uses (15 U.S.C. § 2605(a)(2)(A)(i)). The EPA has already declared that lead is a toxic substance, and has removed nearly all lead containing products from the market.

 

We present in the attached petition nearly 500 peer reviewed scientific articles documenting the toxic effects of lead on wildlife species and conclude that the lead components of bullets, shotgun pellets, fishing weights and lures pose an unreasonable risk of injury to human and wildlife health and to the environment.

 

Ammunition and tackle manufacturers now market a wide variety of non‐lead, non‐toxic bullets, shotgun pellets, and fishing tackle that can replace lead projectiles and weights.

 

The EPA has long held that whenever a toxic substance customarily used in the manufacture of commercial products can be replaced by a nontoxic substitute, the precautionary principle dictates that articles made of the toxic substance should be removed from the market. All hunting and fishing gear containing lead could economically be replaced with non‐toxic alternatives, thus making a strong argument for EPA‐regulatory action.

 

The petitioners understand that EPA is specifically prohibited from regulating ammunition or firearms under TSCA, but that toxic components of ammunition can be regulated if non‐toxic alternatives are commercially available. The petitioners have waited until non‐toxic alternatives have become available to submit this petition in an effort to clearly indicate that this petition is not an attempt to regulate ammunition or firearms.

 

Sincerely,

Michael Fry, PhD

American Bird Conservancy

Washington DC.