Ernesto C Report post Posted August 13, 2010 My brother owns a property out there in the county. He has goats, lots of turkeys and chickens; but lately he's being loosing turkeys and chickens because of the coyotes. Last week, my mom got to see a coyot taking a turkey. To make matters worst......yesterday morning aroud 6: 15 in the morning my mom and my brother her the dog "crying", they ran out and found their dog (small and pretty but dont know what breed) full of blood and hurting really bad!! My brother catched a glimpse of the coyote making it to a lemon orchard. This morning the dog die, dint make it We have seen up to 3 coyotes together hanging out in a lemon orchard that is 30 to 40 acres big and that is about 200 yards away from my brothers house. We are going to pay them a visit this saturday morning. Orchards this time of the year are loaded with jack rabbits. We'll try the jack rabbit in distress call or maybe a couple of hawls and then the jack rabbit call. But we have a great disandvantage.....the weather!! Coyotes dont spend to much energy (at least here where I live) in this heat. 111 max and 85 the lowest; they may not come to the call...but all we are hoping is for them to stop at the edge of the orchard and then KABOOM!! It may work, the orchard right know is their beding area so we will not be calling to far from it. Wish me good luck or tell me any sugestions you may have to make it work......it was a pretty and playfull dog , I for sure will miss it. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntingfool Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Sorry to hear about the dog, that is a big bummer. I wish you all the best in your revenge. Kill 'em all. They'll still be active in the mornings and probably the evenings. I hunted an area a lot last year that kept producing, in the summer. When rabbit sounds quit working I went to fawn distress and they started coming again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MangeyJoe Report post Posted August 13, 2010 That is so sad. I really love dogs, there a blessing to man kind. I will pray for your brother's dog and your brother's family. I have a Primo's power dogg and I used the serenade function on sunrise or sunset but as a coyote hunter, use what best interprets the environment your in. For example, if theres birds like crows and woodpeckers or rabbits (as you mentioned) try and recreate their natural sound even in destress. If you live in the valley, I am more than happy to lend you my remote controlled Primo's power dogg, it has sounds like a lone howl, serenade, female invitation, rabbit destress, woodpecker destress, crow's, and many more. Send me a PM if you want to borrow it , and it is the e-caller on my avatar, all I ask is for you to show us a picture of your reults from hunting those pesky coyotes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Joe, thanks a lot for your offer on the e-call. I do own one too. I'll keep you posted on the hunt.....I just hope to have the wind right that day. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntlerObsession Report post Posted August 13, 2010 I have found that a 3d camo suit is worth its weight in gold if you really don't want to be seen. Youre welcome to mine if you want it. Or throw some chicken scraps out there and blast the H out of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowhuntaz1 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Erensto try using a turkey call... good luck my friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.270 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 ernesto, go deep in the orchard and sit back to back with shotguns and call. it works really well. might just want to squeek call em to start with. and you get to see the look on their face just before the buckshot hits em. i lost all but one of my chickens a couple years ago. i went a coyote killin spree. even found a den with a buncha half growed pups not too far from the house. mucked em all out. killed a couple with my .45 while out riding my bike in the mornings. if you don't make it real hard on the coyotes and in a hurry, they'll kill everything you have. if trapping was legal, you could get even that way too. one other thing, gov't trappers are supposed to help out in a situation like that. if all else fails, make them earn their paycheck. good luck. Lark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MangeyJoe Report post Posted August 13, 2010 I hear people using bait but the rabbits should do it, heck even the chicken idea from antlerobsession would work, But as bowhunt said, if there going after turkey, "try using a turkey call". Always stick with the calling and ad long pauses in between, these AZ coyotes can be tricky so stay with it even if you don't see any for over a hour. They will eventually investigate the noise especially if it the same sound as there food source. But, I'm sure they will come as soon as you start calling from the sounds of things... Best of luck on your hunt . PS Trapping would help your brother greatly and now I really understand the importance of trapping, those coyotes will take everything you have unfortunately, if you guys don't act ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted August 13, 2010 James, very good point since they had taken turkeys. Lark, excellent idea of going deep in the orchard. We'll try that one too, thanks a lot. A.O. good point on the 3D camo and thanks for the offer. I have to dig in the closet to look for mine. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cw4192 Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Ernesto, dont know if You have a gunnysack, but if you do kill a couple jackrabbits and freeze them. Then when you have the time to hunt the yote's thaw them for a couple hours and anchor them to something. put it out and start calling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AzHuntingAddict Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Hey, I dont mind offering another gunman to the mix if ya want. Have gun, will travel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted August 13, 2010 if they are denned up close by start off with a lone howl right at legal light. then wait 3-4 min then a session of turkey or woodpecker distress 30-40 sec. after a couple of sessions of distress wait 3-4 min then play pup distress on your e-caller let it play until they show up.............. the females can't stand it ! good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperwrx Report post Posted August 13, 2010 Ditch the coyote vocalizations and concentrate on rabbit distress. If the limbs on the trees are up high enough off the ground that you have good visibility I'd sit 50 yards apart20 yards in the orchard and start calling. If the visibility is limited I would sit outside the orchard and call them out to the edge of the orchard and shoot them there. A coyote living in a thick 40 acre orchard will think nothing of running all over in it if there is suitable cover to raise their security level. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ernesto C Report post Posted August 14, 2010 Yesterday evening we drove around to find and mark the spots were we were going to be calling this morning. We found a problem...all the orchards around my brothers place were getting irrigated. I told my brother I dont think the coyotes will stay here in the flooded orchards. We drove around and checked a couple of other places. In one of these spots, last night around 9 pm did a couple of barks and a long hawl...man they answered back and it sounded like 50 of them! We showed up there this morning. There are lemon orchards all around but right in the middle is about 10 acress that are empty or clean. The wind was right, we set up and I barked twice and a long hawl and man that got them fire up!! they answered back right away just behind us!! There were not were we expected them to be; I turned around and they there were!! Five coyotes right at the edge of the orchard, five of them!! I said oh no they're going to get our wind! One coyot started to come toward us but he stoped and turned and went back to the orchard. I barked and was able to stop him just before the orchard, POOOMM shot it but I flat missed it coyots dissapeared in the orchard. Hit the jack rabbit in distress call right away and one minute later a coyote showed up on the oposite direction!! (where we originally were expecting them to come) We turned around again and I saw my brother aiming towards the orchard, I could not see the coyote any more but heard the BOOOMM of my brother rifle....saw the coyot running and dissapeared in the orchard. Man all this fast action it happened in 5 minutes or less!! but our shooting sucked big time My shot was about 200 yards away and my brother's was a little over 200. But I was sorprised to see 6 coyots total in this set up! Moved to a differen spot but the only thing that showed up to the call was 2 road runners; by this time is only 6:30 in the morning and I'm already sweating like a pig, it was already 81 degrees. Sorry I could not show you pictures of coyots......maybe next time. Hey ke7csh, it will be nice to have you here, but I dont think is worth it to travel all the way to here just cor a couple of set ups cause it gets hot quick, but of course...during the winter the story is different, it will be a pleasure to meet and have you here. Ernesto C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLW Report post Posted August 16, 2010 now they will be getting edjucated, so just change up what you are doing. just play the pup distress next time maybe in the evening to mix it up. james Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
