Coach Report post Posted May 9, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s...player_embedded I'm sure this site has a better way to embed a youtube vid, but at the very least, cut and paste the link above and listen carefully to what is being said. There is a huge revolutionary movment happening right now in America that is unprecedented. If you aren't yet aware, there are several strong groups operating within our borders that truly believe that NM, AZ and CA are, and always have been, a part of Mexico. They are fighting hard to retake "their" territory. And they are doing it through schools and neighborhoods - one at a time. To reclaim the Southwest states of the United States - as part of their soveriegn territory. Think it sounds silly or without momentum? Consider that last week American students in an American High School in California were sent home for wearing articles of clothing bearing the American flag - because it was considered "incindiary" and might ellicit violence on campus. The strongest opponenents of America throughout the cold war (Russia, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.) all said that the fall of America was not going to come from a forceful takeover, but an internal conflict - that we would bring ourselves down. Guys and gals, we are doing EXACTLY what was predicted. If you think for a moment that we can maintain our world status as leaders of the free world when we kill our own culture in the name of diversity, you are sorely misled. Out - Coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
az4life Report post Posted May 9, 2010 I have read and heard of this movement for a number of years. In Mexico, many think of Ca, AZ, NM, TX, CO, UT, NV as the "Republica Del Norte". Mexican nationals have been told for decades that the US stole the Republica Del Norte land from them. Well even advertising in Mexico has jumped on the bandwagon. Absolut vodka has an ad out showing the "perfect world" for Mexico with the western US being Mexican territory. Absolut Version of Mexico Some people call the mass influx to the US from Mexico Immigration. Others Call it an Invasion. You decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted May 9, 2010 Well said Coach. Some of what you said mirrors my own thoughts. This country wll topple because of the weight of its own greed. I have said this before, and I will say it again. I am not predjudice, or racist. I do not care what color your skin is or what language you speak. Illegal immigration is a disease to this country. It is like a cancer that has spread for many years and worked itself into the social fabric of our nation. It is like an univited guest, a party crasher that everyone notices, but are afraid to force him to leave. What would we do if a stranger walked through our front door, and helped himself to whatever he wanted in our home? What if he ate all the food in our fridge, used our telephone, our personal resources and made his own rules, all in the name of self entitlement. Thats what immigrants do to our society. They use and abuse the system, and they feel they are entitled to live here on our coin! Illegal immigration is a revolving door. They get caught, deported and they are back again. It is like flushing money down the toilet. Catching and deporting people many times over is redundant, and useless. In my opinon the biggest problem we face is incompetent politicians. The Janet Napolitano's of the government, and last but not least, President Obama who seems determined to build a socialist, no see, no tell, society. John McCain makes me sick, as now he is jumping on the border security bandwagon, when not long ago he was one of the people involved in drafting an amnesty package. What a moron. Somebody mentioned something earlier about "ethnic cleansing".........hogwash.! This country needs a good social and political cleansing, not to mention a financial cleansing for Wall Street and the banks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted May 9, 2010 1. Term limits in Congress 2. Balanced budget amendment (end the entitlements) 3. Stop getting involved with foreign disputes. Let them fight their own wars. That USED to be our policy until the formation of the United Nations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muskrat Report post Posted May 10, 2010 http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/05/is_...d_when_the.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRS Report post Posted May 11, 2010 I think this was from several years ago, and it does not show up in either Snopes or Urban Legends as false. Subject: Destruction of the United States This should create a little controversial discussion Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, 'If you believe to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'' 'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said: 'First, to destroy America,turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country.' History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way:'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces diffculties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.' Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, 'Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, 'We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment meant might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together. 'Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.' 'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.' 'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.' 'My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'plurib us' instead of the'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.' 'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.' In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.' There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984.' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.' Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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wackycouesaddict Report post Posted May 14, 2010 sounds like to me we need to stop posting on this forum and go out and hold a "AMERICAN PRIDE " ralley. im being serious we need to do it to show the world/country there are some of us out here who still believe in the amrican dream cause i do. Thats coming from a kid who has wanted to droop out of his mexican based school because its shaped to help them not us anymore. so lets tart it here and make it big show our pride in america. (sadly i know many of the poepe here wont want to) 17 year old proud AMERICAN TYLER ZAWACKY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted May 14, 2010 sounds like to me we need to stop posting on this forum and go out and hold a "AMERICAN PRIDE " ralley. im being serious we need to do it to show the world/country there are some of us out here who still believe in the amrican dream cause i do. Thats coming from a kid who has wanted to droop out of his mexican based school because its shaped to help them not us anymore. so lets tart it here and make it big show our pride in america. (sadly i know many of the poepe here wont want to) 17 year old proud AMERICAN TYLER ZAWACKY Good idea wack....I was thinking I wouldn't mind somebody putting together a T-shirt that said something like. I'm From Arizona and Proud to fight for our border........or something like that. Course, that might cause a riot because somebody got offended that I was expressing my feelings bout the situation...... I saw a lady with a blue ball cap on with the American flag pasted on the front and decided I wanted one of those too. It is time to stand up and like the song says, You got stand for something or you'll fall for anything............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wackycouesaddict Report post Posted May 14, 2010 maybe that would be good and open peoples eyes to wats going on. If ther were to be a riot at a AMERICAN PRIDE rally it would really show to the rest of the country that this is really a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites