COOSEFAN Report post Posted May 6, 2010 I usually try and stay away from political stuff, but I just recieved this and want to share it with everyone. How could anyone be opposed to this new law??? The fact that there are people opposing it is scary and hopefully it's just because they don't fully understand what the law is or what is actually going on in the real world...HOPEFULLY! JIM> _______________________________________________________________ I'm Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 which I voted for and was just signed by Governor Jan Brewer. Rancher Rob Krantz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified. The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles. Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains. One man told of two illegal's who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can't leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back. The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border. Federal prisons have over 35% illegal's and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal's. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal. The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life. The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states. We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education cost have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop. The border can be secured. We have the technology we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under. I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to forgive them because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico, Canada or any of the other Central American or South American countries? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish also. We have already lost our history it is no longer taught in our schools. And we have lost our borders. The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany. Are you kidding. The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal's from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause like a traffic stop to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card, Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote, get a hunting license, etc.. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street etc... The Socialist who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something and that something the Socialist wants us to do is just let them come. They want the "Transformation" to continue. Maybe it is too late to save America. Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our Constitutional Republic. Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution, the law of our land which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. Freedom is not free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted May 6, 2010 That letter sums it up 100% Good read! That letter should be given to every ignorant person who oposes SB 1070, but then agian from what I have seen, they would still not understand it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted May 6, 2010 Pretty well said. I have wondered how we can send troops all over the world trying to help ourselves and others and yet we can't take care of our own border. Good post......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted May 6, 2010 redneck said: Pretty well said. I have wondered how we can send troops all over the world trying to help ourselves and others and yet we can't take care of our own border. Good post......... Exactly right! If our government put the time and money into illegal immigration like they do in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the problem would be solved quickly. Maybe they should move the Whitehouse down to the border. Then Obama can watch 300-1200 immigrants walk across his front lawn daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesWhitetail Report post Posted May 6, 2010 Snapshot said: redneck said: Pretty well said. I have wondered how we can send troops all over the world trying to help ourselves and others and yet we can't take care of our own border. Good post......... Exactly right! If our government put the time and money into illegal immigration like they do in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the problem would be solved quickly. Maybe they should move the Whitehouse down to the border. Then Obama can watch 300-1200 immigrants walk across his front lawn daily. +1 Maybe we can move Congress down there too. That would really help speed up the process of getting something done that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucky2hunt Report post Posted May 6, 2010 CouesWhitetail said: Snapshot said: redneck said: Pretty well said. I have wondered how we can send troops all over the world trying to help ourselves and others and yet we can't take care of our own border. Good post......... Exactly right! If our government put the time and money into illegal immigration like they do in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the problem would be solved quickly. Maybe they should move the Whitehouse down to the border. Then Obama can watch 300-1200 immigrants walk across his front lawn daily. +1 Maybe we can move Congress down there too. That would really help speed up the process of getting something done that works. Amen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunterdan Report post Posted May 6, 2010 Great Read Jim! That does sum it all up. Anyone opposed to this law needs to get there head out of the sand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aztrophytakers Report post Posted May 6, 2010 His name was Bob Krentz not Rob Krantz... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8 White Jr Report post Posted May 7, 2010 CouesWhitetail said: Snapshot said: redneck said: Pretty well said. I have wondered how we can send troops all over the world trying to help ourselves and others and yet we can't take care of our own border. Good post......... Exactly right! If our government put the time and money into illegal immigration like they do in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the problem would be solved quickly. Maybe they should move the Whitehouse down to the border. Then Obama can watch 300-1200 immigrants walk across his front lawn daily. +1 Maybe we can move Congress down there too. That would really help speed up the process of getting something done that works. Couldn't agree more!! Definitely a good read! Thanks for this post Coosefan! -Tracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters Report post Posted May 7, 2010 This should be on the front page on every newspaper across the country. How some claim this bill to be racist I don't see how that is other than that is the only foothold they have in this great country of ours that allows them to speak this nonsense that it's a racist bill. Get legal, Stop breaking the laws or plain in simple Get out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpotNStalk Report post Posted May 7, 2010 So, after the illegal immigrants have been caught and turned over to ICE then what? You ship them back to Mexico and what prevents them from coming back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted May 7, 2010 LOL at the lib-tards in Congress. All of a sudden they are talking tough on border security. Yeah, 70% approval rating of enforcing the law will do that to you in an election year. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/201...l#ixzz0nDOrO5kU http://devwww.azcentral.com/news/articles/...galization.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snapshot Report post Posted May 7, 2010 SpotNStalk said: So, after the illegal immigrants have been caught and turned over to ICE then what? You ship them back to Mexico and what prevents them from coming back? According to John McCains 10 point plan.................... National Guard Troops 3000 more Border Patrol Build the dang fence Smartest thing I ever heard McCain say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Payne Report post Posted May 7, 2010 Senator Allen is a good example of a clear thinking politician that actually wants what is best for Arizona and America. How could any true American disagree with upholding the laws of our nation? The media and progressive movement has blinded so many people. I lived in Guatemala for two years of my life where I got to see first hand the struggles that the people in Latin America face; poverty, health care, education, and political corruption (starting to sound like America). I met some of the sweetest hardest working people while I was there. I don't blame them for wanting something better. There may not be a lot of good solutions to their problems but illegally immigrating to our country is not the answer. To be a true contributing citizen of a country one has to be committed to upholding its laws including paying taxes. Illegal immigrants have already broken our laws the second they jump the fence. I don't like stereotyping and am not racist but anyone that doesn't admit there is a pattern in the nightly news and every police report is blind. Just this week my wife asked to stop putting in for hunts along the border until things calm down. She hasn't liked me hunting along the border in the past but has consented with my commitment to be extra careful and take care of my business. Now she is putting her foot down. I can't tell you how hard it was to agree to her wishes, but she is right, as a husband and a father of four it is simply too dangerous for me to risk. I love hunting down there. I hate so much that I am not free to do what I love in my own country. SB 1070 is a good start and hooray for Gov. Brewer, but so much more needs to be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpotNStalk Report post Posted May 7, 2010 Most of the mexicans that are crossing the border illegally are looking for a better way of life whether it be here or by sending money back to family in Mexico. Unless you seriously plan on going after the source like companies that hire illegals knowingly or not and try to fix the border problem SB 1070 really does'nt do squat(IMO). So, you send them back and as soon as they hit dirt they're already planning there way back. So, now you have caught them a second time but this time you send them to jail. Well in 08 it cost close to $62 dollars a day JUST to house an inmate. Now add that up X's how many that go to jail X's that per day. I agree something definitly needs and has been needed to be done but this is'nt the answer. Its just an election year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites